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richardoren

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  1. OWNER - I own a Hatteras Yacht
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38' DOUBLE CABIN (1967 - 1971)
Hi Guys,

Some of you will no doubt be wondering why I vanished from the forum for the past year.

Call it a state of shock.

Latest news was that we spent the summer with the kids working into the night, they did more than their share with 15 hour work days!

12 year-old daughter did all the metal work bringing rust and thick green muck back to shiny steel or aluminum. Started rechroming some and 14 year-old son did most of the varnishing of the brightwork. Here they are taking a break from the tough work reconditioning the used fenders.

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Then we got her ready with a fresh bottom and painted props:

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Proud at launch:

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Then, after 2 unsuccessful launches from St Tropez to cross the Mediterrannean to Corsica (first due to clogged cooling which gave me some fun in the hole juggling buckets of acid - second due to a burst oil line (since replaced with bulldozer high pressure lines) it was a great 16 knot cruise with no land in sight on the full horizon and a very steady boat ride.

One night spent in Calvi, and off with the wife and kids around the island, a full day's cruise at planing speed. Berthed along the port's breakway dock next to some fifty boats all lined up and then a scramble to get the boat ready for storage with departure the following day. So you can say that it was a very short visit, eagerly awaiting another time to go back and finally enjoy our project boat.

Then last September, for the first time in the history of Corsica, a Tornado entered a port. It tore a number of boats from the dock but only hit one boat directly: OURS

She lost her roof, got the landing plank twisted, split some wooden rails and destroyed the new (to us) 4 foot radar I had just only installed. It was news made worse when we made our insurance claim and the "friendly French insurance lady" told us we weren't covered for weather related damage! We vowed to soon find a proper insurance agency and I went with my son by plane to assess the damage and plan for the repairs.

Only a couple of weeks later, before we had a chance to get a new insurer, record storms hit Corsica, sinking many boats with a full night of 7 meter (20') waves. All the boats in the port were torn from their lines, and spent the night smashing together in conditions which made rescuing them tough for the few folks there. Quite a few sank, fortunately ours didn't although the port's captain warned us that those which sank might sue us due to ours possibly sinking theirs. Luckily that didn't happen either.

Honestly, we didn't have the heart to head out to see the damage, and waited until this summer when our trip was already scheduled to face the music. It wasn't so much due to the costs, which will be felt, but due to the turn of events in what had become our great family boating adventure, turned into something of a misadventure to say the least. Meanwhile, somebody hadn't failed to visit the boat, using a crow bar on the locks to make it a perfect picture.

So this is why you haven't seen me of late. I still love Hatts, but couldn't even bring myself to attend to the 34 footer in Vermont with the kids to not open any wounds. Now I'm back at the helm and ready to tackle the "New" project, determined to make it nicer than I ever would have had our luck not turned. It seems the healthiest way of conjuring fate to turn a bad situation around 180 degrees.

To our good fortune, some of the damage was useful. I wanted to disassemble the windscreen to refinish its aluminum, and the roof would have needed to come off anyways. So that Tornado was actually doing me a favor! ;)

Also, we started venturing into Hatteras territory very conservatively, with a smaller unit in excellent mechanical condition. So it isn't as if we'd seen our life savings swept away and a mint cream puff yacht smashed to bits. Some stuff is now missing, such as one of the aft tender hoists and some railings and the side panels above deck as well as the plastic side windows. But much of the rest is still there. Some big holes need to be patched in the deck and aft angles where the boat spent hours pounding against concrete docks and other boats. But there's no damage below the waterline and the props are intact. Here's some AFTER pictures.

Honey, we always wanted a convertible:

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A better view without the roof

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Seems like something is missing?

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Looks like we've got termites!

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That solid brass hardware sure looked sturdy before the storm...

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Our new Master stateroom skylight:

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So you can see I've got my work cut out, it's going to be a busy winter ahead with travel to the States to get hard to find parts, others needing to be remade on the mainland, and quite the task ahead.

I'm back online now so feel free to chime in with your usual good humor (Bill and Randy) or some ideas on fixes for the lame duck. :cool:

Cheers,

Richard
Almost Hattless
 
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Is that a Hatteras? :D

Try and post some bigger pictures next time. LOL
 
Hi Sparky,

I'm trying to resize them now, they changed the automatic resize in Photobucket and now they don't shrink them like they used to - sorry, will fix asap.

Richard

PS. It is a Hatt 38DC
 
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Resized the photos on Photobucket so they won't hog your screen or bandwidth.

Rich
 
Shrinking them doesn't make them any less painful to look at. Sorry to hear about your run of REALLY bad luck. :eek: I hope you and your family find it in yourselves and your bank account to bring her back to Hatteras condition.
 
Let's all hope this story, with some sad beginnings, has a happy final ending...
Good luck!!!!
 
Hi Sparky,

I'm trying to resize them now, they changed the automatic resize in Photobucket and now they don't shrink them like they used to - sorry, will fix asap.

Richard

PS. It is a Hatt 38DC
I was just messing with you (as you would expect) about the pics and that being a Hatteras. I mean it says so right on the transom. :D

Man, if you get that one back into shape, you'll have a story that will rival YottsmanWillie's for sure. Good luck, and I mean that.
 
It sounds even though you suffered the loss of hard work and the cost involved that you have a good attitude. That's what counts. Youve taught your kids the value of hard work,,,,now its time to teach them that when youre down, pick yourself up and go again. We feel your pain and admire your determination..

Good Luck on your new project!
 
Re: Luck of sorts

Shrinking them doesn't make them any less painful to look at. Sorry to hear about your run of REALLY bad luck. :eek: I hope you and your family find it in yourselves and your bank account to bring her back to Hatteras condition.
Hi Scrod,

Bad luck for sure, folks in Corsica say I need to get the "Evil Eye" removed by some sort of witch doctor, didn't know they had those there. ;)
 
...and they all cruised happily ever after !

Let's all hope this story, with some sad beginnings, has a happy final ending...
Good luck!!!!
Hi Rob,

Actually it isn't entirely a sad story, we had one great boat ride around the island, even if we had the kids at the helm while we were in the front cabin with buckets, I had left the portholes slightly ajar for ventilation at night and forgot to seal them back up before parting the sea. :eek:

And she's more of a project boat than ever, with plans for renovation fusing in my mind. I'll keep you guys posted with news of the progress. On the good side the land storage is only around $200/month which is several times cheaper than anything on the continent. So it will be a slow journey back to her days of glory.

Also, I wanted to keep her 100% original, but now that a number of those parts are gone it means that there's no choice but to update her in some ways, hopefully none which wouldn't bode well with the Hatt heritage.

Let me know if you hear of a used fiberglass swim platform or tasteful modern ladder, that might be an idea. I'm also thinking of removing the flat white panels along the cockpit railings rather than try to make new ones for it, unless these can be bought or made somewhere without entailing expensive custom fabrication. You can bet I'll be visiting Marine salvage yards once back in the States this fall. :cool:

Rich
 
Banking on Inner Resources

Shrinking them doesn't make them any less painful to look at. Sorry to hear about your run of REALLY bad luck. :eek: I hope you and your family find it in yourselves and your bank account to bring her back to Hatteras condition.
Hi Scrod,

It looks like I'm sort of on my own for this one now, a few decades of adversity vaccinated me for this sort of thing, but the kids took it real hard and my wife was struck by shell shock the day after seeing the damage for herself and cleaning up the storm strewn and burglar sifted mess below deck.

The good news is we recovered the roof and only need some patching and a lost stainless bar to put it back on. Some of the railings were recovered too, so it isn't as bad as it looks. We'll need some form of dinghy hoist since one of the stainless bars aft of the stern was lost in the drink. And to turn bad luck into disguised good fortune, I hope to locate a used electrical hoist of sorts to make it less of a chore to raise the dinghy with its engine.

This will also be the occasion to update the helm bench if anyone here has some suggestions they'd be welcome. It will become a resto-mod and no longer a purist classic restoration, a boat keeping the best of the classic period but adding a few worthwhile modern amenities that Jack Hargrave might even approve. :)
 
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Is there a triple cabin curse?

I was just messing with you (as you would expect) about the pics and that being a Hatteras. I mean it says so right on the transom. :D

Man, if you get that one back into shape, you'll have a story that will rival YottsmanWillie's for sure. Good luck, and I mean that.
Hi Randy,

Bill's my ally and never my rival, although his adventure is in neighboring territory for sure. His courage is greater than mine, as I wasn't up to tackling such a big project boat. At half the size this one is plenty on my plate! The tough part is setting forth not knowing what's involved, but I like to call it the least expensive boating college on the sea, because once you've been through some of these lessons you hopefully know enough to stay out of trouble later on bigger more expensive boats.

Like Bill, I'll probably stay away from triple cabins in the future, 4-cabins or BUST ! :D
 
Not under the water

It sounds even though you suffered the loss of hard work and the cost involved that you have a good attitude. That's what counts. Youve taught your kids the value of hard work,,,,now its time to teach them that when youre down, pick yourself up and go again. We feel your pain and admire your determination..
Good Luck on your new project!
Thanks for the encouraging words Daryl - I don't mind losing my hard work but it was the kids seeing their own work gone that wasn't so easy. At least this way they know nothing amounts to much in the face of time and the elements. It is going to take teaching by example, once I've gotten the boat looking less like a wreck, that they'll probably regain some courage and help get her shipshape.

She'll never be a LLOYDS certified yacht, but can still be a sweet little boat for safely cruising the Med. With some luck in finding parts and a little help from Neptune it will all be a fun story to tell on deck during sunset dinners. :cool:
 
Hey Richard... sorry I havent been in here till now. Trying to burn a candle from the middle hasnt work for me yet, but we keep on trying!
I'm glad you found your hardtop. Thats a plus. After your repairs, youll get to fill us in on the latest and greatest paints and resins too. What a bummer to hafta re-do previously done stuff, but at least you know yer way around the boat pretty well by now!! Esta fuey un sueno' malo !! ws
 
You can buy the dodger board material from Sams to replace those around the aft deck. Did you recover the hardtop?
 
Yes - we have the dodger board in stock. Let us know if there are any other parts you need and we'll try to find them if we don't already have it.
 
Not a parts boat in my book !

Hey Richard... sorry I havent been in here till now. Trying to burn a candle from the middle hasnt work for me yet, but we keep on trying!
I'm glad you found your hardtop. Thats a plus. After your repairs, youll get to fill us in on the latest and greatest paints and resins too. What a bummer to hafta re-do previously done stuff, but at least you know yer way around the boat pretty well by now!! Esta fuey un sueno' malo !! ws

Hiya Bill ! Long time - glad to see you bringing her into dock queen shape.

Actually some of our work is intact: the bottom I had entirely redone with Watertight, repainted and antifouled didn't get a scuff. The blades the kids ground to the metal and painted with specialty antifouling are unscathed. So it isn't as bad as it looks. The side rails needed to come off for reconditioning anyways, but they sure got bent about.

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I don't even think I ever had a chance to snap a picture after mounting the wide array radar, sort of gave her a serious deep water look. Now I'm on the path to find another oldie but goodie Furuno. The original spotlight was gone, so that's another item I'll be looking to upgrade while I'm at it, light technology has probably improved in leaps and bounds since the sixties, so a used unit from the 90's might be right, as long as it has classic looks.

To replace the davits, since a single one won't work, I'm eyeing a unit that mounts on the swim platform. But first I need to find a used swim platform to hold it. Talk about putting the cart before the horse, or the davit before the platform. I'll try that shop you mentioned up the coast next time in Florida, since Sailorman doesn't have one these days.

Let me know if you have ideas for replacing the twin bench, because it is in rather nasty shape, with its aluminum deeply corroded, its plastic base discolored and cracked, its foam seating aged and its upholstery a patchwork of sorts. Just in case you see a nice used double bench sitting around a warehouse somewhere. The ultimate would be one that flips its back so you can sit with your guests at mooring, or captain with your back to the bow in calm waters. ;)

Talk to ya soon later,

Rich
 
Missing parts already found !

You can buy the dodger board material from Sams to replace those around the aft deck. Did you recover the hardtop?

Hi Sky,

Thanks for the suggestion, I didn't think that was available and would have had to be custom made.

Some were of the missing panels were not dodger board but were some sort of white plastic mounted to flip out for boarding from the port or starboard side. For example, the gap to the right (aft starboard) is a missing dodger board, the plastic panel went in the gap to the left (forward starboard) and swung outwards when it was still attached to the boat. ;)

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I appreciate the help and will definitely get in touch with Sam's as soon as I'm home in Vermont later this month. :cool:

Rich
 

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