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hose nipple material for seawater

jim rosenthal

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This afternoon, I was on my boat (which is hauled for the winter and covered) with a friend; he was showing me how to connect a system to flush the seawater side of the cooling system. We've had some threads about this, and basically I was asking him to show me where to open the system and route acid flush through it- whether it would be dilute phosphoric acid or vinegar. This is something I plan to do while she's out of the water.

And then he said "what's this?", pointing to a hose hanging off the back of the engine- to be precise, hanging off the back of the transmission fluid cooler.

"This" is the seawater line to the PSS shaft seal system. The fitting, which was brass, had corroded and broken off level with the outside of the cooler. The cooler has two outlets for zincs, and one was used to supply cooling water to the PSS system. I know that this was intact during the season; I don't know when it broke, but I had not been finding water back there, so it must have been recently.

Although the other fittings look good, I am going to replace all of them. The question is, with what?

I'd like to know what other members think. I have located 304 SS fittings from McMaster-Carr, and possibly 316 SS fittings as well. I THINK this is a 3/8" hose barb on one end of the fitting and 1/8" NPT on the other, but I have to measure it. I also have to use a thread extractor to remove what's left of the old fitting. I bought some thread extractors today, and I may also get a different kind- the spiral threaded ones, which weren't available where I was.

Having just replaced the bellows and associated hardware for the PSS systems, I am going to leave them in. I know that standard shaft logs don't require a cooling line, but since what I have DOES require a cooling line, I'd like to make the best choice about what material (metal or nonmetal, if metal what kind) to use in this system.

Suggestions sought and appreciated.
 
Jim,
Does the PSS shaft cooling line have to come from the transmission cooler.

I am assuming that the zinc was protecting the brass when that fitting was being used as a sacrificial anode for the engine/trans.. Since using it as a water conduit to cool the shaft log without any zinc the brass went away. Correct me if I am wrong, please.

Jon
 
There are actually two tapped bosses for zincs in the trans cooler. One still has a zinc in it. The other had the fitting. I think the vibration may have had something to do with it.

I contacted PSS. They now use a SS hose nipple on the PSS unit which is electrically isolated from the carbon nosepiece. My PSS units, which are older, have nylon hose barbs. The housing of the trans cooler is (I think) bronze. No one seems to make a bronze hose nipple in the required size- brass, sure, but not bronze. I'll probably end up using SS unless someone comes up with a better suggestion.
 
Make the zink the lower of the 2.

The nipple is best as the same material as the cooler. If not I'd be looking at the reinforced plastic.
 
What ever metal you use (316 stainless?) use plenty of Tefgel on the threads to galvanically separate the dissimilar metals...but you knew that. I just had to say it anyway!!

Jon
 
The cooler sits about level, but I'll check it out again. If there's a reinforced nylon I'll look at it, but a first search didn't find one. 304 would be better than another brass one, I think.
 
Jim, I think the way to go is bronze but if you can't find it perhaps you can have one turned on a lathe. It wouldn't be a particularly big job and I would think shouldn't cost very much. Before doing that however I would search around. Perhaps Steve McPhearson (SAM's) could help you out. PM me if you hit a blank wall and perhaps I can help you out.

Walt
 
Brass in sea water is a disaster waiting to happen... I ve seen AC manifolds crumbling to dust. I once had an AC strainer coming loose because of brass fitting

If something doesn't come in solidnbronze don't use brass. Nylon or Marelon is second best

SS fittings? No way
 
Jim, I think the way to go is bronze but if you can't find it perhaps you can have one turned on a lathe. It wouldn't be a particularly big job and I would think shouldn't cost very much. Before doing that however I would search around. Perhaps Steve McPhearson (SAM's) could help you out. PM me if you hit a blank wall and perhaps I can help you out.

Walt

X2 on bronze. Brass is a disaster waiting to happen. Search "bronze hose barbs and nipples". This site seems to have a good assortment

http://www.conexbronze.com/product/...l-hose-Nipples-Marine-Hose-Tails-Nipples.html

Bobk
 
SS fittings? No way

ss is very close to bronze on the chart?

I never seen a problem with all those s.s bolts in a bronze water pump and my water pump has a s.s back cover on the Bronze housing.

Use 316 s.s

Jim normally the hose for the shaft seals is taken off the bottom of the inter-cooler on a B.
 
Bronze, unlike brass, contains little or no zinc and is therefore ideally suited to seawater applications. There are many good suppliers in India offering Bronze Hose Nipples. Even prices were attractive.

Moderators please take note. This is a resurrected thread from 2017.

One post, containing a quote from the internet, at 2:30AM probably indicates bot.

DAN
 

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