Hatteras 50 Yacht Fisherman

[SportFishCruising]

Hatteras 48-50 Yacht Fisherman

Could we have a general discussion and contribution of knowlege & owner's experiences for the
Hatteras 48-50 Yacht Fisherman?
Would members please post pics, experiences, general comments, referrals, etc with these models?
What makes it so different than a CPMY?
Anyone seen seen one lately like this one pictured?
Thanks in advance!

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Take a look at the brochures archive. By what you see there, the only 48YF and 50YF are actually motoryachts with cockpits. I know that other models were commonly referred to as yachtfisherman in the past, but it seems that the actual names of the models of that style were convertibles.

Exactly which models from the archive did you want to discuss?

 

[SportFishCruising]

Exactly which models from the archive did you want to discuss?

The archives do not cover the models I wish to discuss. The archives cover the 48CPMY from 1981 to '85 and then 1993 to '96. It covers the 50 Sport Deck MY from 1996 to '98 and the 53YF from 1978 to '87.

The models I would like to discuss, see examples of, etc. are the 48YF produced for years around 1972 through to end of production and the 50YF produced when, in the 80's? There seems to be little information on these models.

Research on this forum has shown only 2 members who has or had a 48YF, 2 members who has or had a 50YF, 1 member with a 53YF and 1 member with a 58YF. Any updates from these members would be appreciated because their last posts are quite dated (with the exception our 1 former 48YF owner member). Also, production numbers were discussed here indicating only 8 - 50YF's were ever produced, no mention of how many 48YF's or 53YF's. An internet search shows only 3 - 48YF's availabe (rather rough) and only 1 - 50YF that are for sale.

If anyone can contribute any more history on the Yacht Fisherman model and any listing for sale, that would be interesting too. The archives also does not cover the 58YF as pictured below, but the '53 and '58 are way beyond my needs. Also, the YF lines, profile and layout are quite distinctive over the Convertible and MY's. Cockpit is smaller than a Convertible and bigger than an MY with cockpit, a good summary I guess.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Here is the 48YF:

http://www.hatterasowners.com/Brochures/48YF/48YFArchives.htm

And here is the 50YF:

http://www.hatterasowners.com/Brochures/50YF/50YFArchives.htm

 

[SportFishCruising]

oohhh....that archive! Dummy me, I forgot about that one and was using/referred to this one: http://www.yachtcouncil.com/yacht-models/model-info.asp?model_id=2036&builders=1100#
Thanks Sky.

 

[REBrueckner]

If you'd like some comments on the 1972 48 YF with 8V71TI's, send me a private e-mail and I'll e-mail you my telephone number...

 

[Keith]

We have a 1966 50 foot Yacht Fisherman and are live-aboards in San Francisco Bay. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. Our boat has 8 71 naturals rebuilt with less than 500 hours and has been updated over the years. She has a teak interior, teak and holly floors, custom main salon interior and the traditional aft cabin, guest cabin and a custom double in the bow. I removed the guest head and installed a washer and dryer. The interior is almost exactly like a 53' boat. We recently removed the canvas back and replaced it with a custom fiberglass aft deck enclosure but the cockpit remains open. The cockpit is nice for docking and the barbecue. We are planning to cruise up to Alaska next year and are working hard to get the old girl ready.

Keith
Lady J

 

[Angela]

Difference between a cockpit motor yacht and the yachtfish - yachtfish have walk-around side decks; cockpit motor yachts do not - they have full beam salons. That said, when you get into the newer motoryachts with larger beams, they walk-around side decks, too. But I believe the official "yachtfish" era ended with the 58YF in 1981 and the less common 53YF in 1990. Everything thereafter was just a motoryacht, and with the larger beam, they had walk-around side decks whether they had a cockpit or not.

 

[ThirdHatt]

Difference between a cockpit motor yacht and the yachtfish - yachtfish have walk-around side decks; cockpit motor yachts do not - they have full beam salons. That said, when you get into the newer motoryachts with larger beams, they walk-around side decks, too. But I believe the official "yachtfish" era ended with the 58YF in 1981 and the less common 53YF in 1990. Everything thereafter was just a motoryacht, and with the larger beam, they had walk-around side decks whether they had a cockpit or not.

You are correct except that much to my chagrin Hatteras actually got away from the walk around side decks on the newer motoryachts. One of the most popular and best running Hatt motoryachts of that era is the 74 which came out in 1996 offered as a cockpit motoryacht or the more popular sport deck, but almost none were built with full walkaround side decks. It was a $36k option which almost nobody opted for.

We made an offer on a Hatt 75MY (same as 74, just newer) at FLIBS just because it was the only one I had ever seen that was ordered with the side decks. I am told that of the 39 Hatteras 75's built, but only two were made with the walk around option. Apparently so many buyers in that size range just wanted more interior volume and did not care about the side decks because most owners had a Captain/mate to deal with the lines, etc. As an owner/operator I will not sacrifice safety and ease of line handling for a bit more salon volume.

I think that one of the reasons that the 74's and 75's were built with full beam salons is because Hatt stuck with the 18'2" beam for too long on the larger boats. While 18'2" beam is excellent and quite proportional for a ~60' boat, it is simply too narrow for a ~75' boat. Hatteras should have widened the hulls to something like 19'-20' and there would have been penty room in the salon to satisfy everyone without sacrificing the safety and convenience of side decks. This is about when Hatteras began losing ground to other manufacturers like Lazzara, etc.

Back to the classic 50' Yachtfish, I believe that Hatteras only built 8 of the 50's in the Yachtfish configuration from 1965-1968. That should prove to be a rare boat to find! There is one that is about 30 miles from me that has been treated very well with a complete professional Awlgrip paint job in 2007. I hear the latest project is teak & holly floors throughout! Cool boat!

 

[lumina]

Hi,

I have a beautiful 1974 yachtfish. Please ask your questions or send me a PM.

 

[SportFishCruising]

Please excuse the delay in reposting here but I have been studying all the materials that I could find and now have a few discoveries and questions. But first, I'd like to thank everyone for their responses.

Sky, thanks for leading me to the correct brochure.
REBrueckner, thanks Rob for sharing information on your 48YF through emails.
Keith, I would be very interested in seeing photos of your 50YF. In the email you sent me there was a pic attached but I could not open it for some reason. Is the hull anything like the photo I posted in my opening post? The hull in that photo looks like a deep V planning hull whereas other examples I looked at (1968) appear to have a semi displacement hull, more like a MY than a Convertible. Was it different in 1966? Also Keith, do you have 320, 350 or other HP and how many hours at time of rebuild?
Angela, thanks for pointing out the walk-around side decks, that also is missing in the photo I posted in the opening post. The walk-around side decks and pilot door access is important to me for single handling, I eventually want to be capable of this.
ThirdHatt, I find it rather amazing only 8 - 50YF's were built and yes, it is proving to be a rare boat to find. I would appreciate any contact info available for the one in your area, whether for sale or not.
Lumina, please check your PM's, I've sent you a couple prior to your post. I had read all your previous posts and it sounds like you have a very nice 48YF.

My general questions regarding the 50YF are:
Is the LOA 50'3" with Beam of 15'7" (is this a 1510 hull?) and Draft of 4' correct?
Height above waterline or Bridge Clearance: 19'6" with mast-up, 12'6" mast down, correct? Is it easy to put the mast down? Is the mast for structural integrity or other purposes?
I'd really like to know if the hull is deep V or semi displacement and info regarding it's keel.
And, depending on it's hull, what is it's hull speed or ideal cruising speed?
Does the 50YF plane and if so, does fuel consumption drop to around 0.5 nmpg?
I am assuming it's fuel consumption at hull speed to be around 1 nmpg, correct?
Should the 50YF have stabilizers?
Thank you in advance for your responses, this model is one of the most difficult to get information on it seems.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

The 50' was discontinued when they came out with the 53. The 53 and 58 are 1510's. If you like the 50YF, you should also consider the 53YF as there were many more built and they are much the same as the 50.

 

[SportFishCruising]

The 50' was discontinued when they came out with the 53. The 53 and 58 are 1510's. If you like the 50YF, you should also consider the 53YF as there were many more built and they are much the same as the 50.

Yeah, I did consider the 53, that's was the beginning of my confusion with the FY, MY, CPMY models. But now that I have my confusion cleared up, I am preferring the older 48YF or if lucky, a 50YF.
The 53 is a considerable price jump in purchasing & owning. Because it's newer it cost more, going from a 48.6 LOA to a 50.3 is a $500 jump, and from 50.3 to 53 is a $1000 jump on my summer slip, winter dock, hydro and shrinkwrapping costs per year, not to mention fuel & other operating costs. Also, on the 53 I believe there is a shift away from the DD's being naturals and with higher HP's so that is a concern. Plus, I'm a dedicated bachelor so I don't need the extra storage
(Considering here in Canada, a 50% tax rate.... I save $3,000 in earnings per year with a 48 over the 53 in summer slip, winter dock and shrinkwrap fees alone; our mortgages & boat loans are non-deductable.)

 

[SportFishCruising]

Hi,
I have a beautiful 1974 yachtfish. Please ask your questions or send me a PM.

Hi Gene, thanks for your PM. Wow, you have an excellant history and experience with the 48YF; have you shared that with the rest of the forum? I really appreciate you telling me about it.

Can you and Keith both post photos of your Yacht Fisherman's in this thread as fine examples of Hatteras Classic Heritage?