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Generator Muffler Advice

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Centek Vernalift muffler. I'm replacing the exhaust hoses. Do I just replace the muffler too while I'm there because it's 18 years old, or do they never go bad?
 
We replaced ours because the exhaust outlet pipe did not go deep enough into the muffler for the water to cover it adequately. As a result the generator would "bark" once in a while. Once the muffler was replaced with a new one, all was well. But I did check the penetration of the exhaust pipe into the muffler, and we went with the next size up. The new one was all glass, the old one had pipe and associated fittings.

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I agree with Dan. The new ones are all fiberglass and will never corrode. It’s a very inexpensive piece of goods to change out if you’ve gone this far.
 
My rule is if it crosses your mind to replace an item, replace. Too inexpensive of a part not to replace or upgrade while you're doing the other work. Also, we always use silicone hose when we can.
 
We replaced ours because the exhaust outlet pipe did not go deep enough into the muffler for the water to cover it adequately.
Dan, how far below the top of the muffler did the outlet pipe extend on the new one? I am taking it out tomorrow to examine it. It needs to come out anyway for me to remove the 8D battery just forward of it. I enjoyed your videos of crossing to the Bahamas.
 
You convinced me. I ordered a muffler.
 
Does the exhaust and water go through the side of the boat or all the way out through the Stern? If it goes through the side I have a way to set up your muffler and exit hoses so that there will be virtually no sound coming out of the side of the boat. No bubbling no splashing no hissing no gurgling.
 
It comes out of the side. It's an 8K Westerbeke with a sound shield. I wouldn't exactly call it quiet, but most of the noise I notice is from the engine and not the exhaust, but as Ross Perot said, I'm all ears.
 
I’m not a great artist but I’ll put something down and take a photo of it and send it to you on this post. If you have any questions you can private message me and I’ll give you my telephone number and we can discuss it.
 
Like I said I’m no artist, the water will exit on the low side because of it’s weight and the exhaust fumes will go out 6 inches above. The water just slides out and the exhaust just goes out above and there is no noise on the side of the the whole hopefully that makes sense
 

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Like I said I’m no artist, the water will exit on the low side because of it’s weight and the exhaust fumes will go out 6 inches above. The water just slides out and the exhaust just goes out above and there is no noise on the side of the the whole hopefully that makes sense

My cell is 650-619-2308 if you need to discuss. Rusty
 
I'm going to file this away as a solution if it becomes a problem. I appreciate the info.
 
In that illustration there is no anti syphon. I would worry about that.
 
I forget how much more the new muffler's exhaust went down into the chamber but it was obvious. I also went with the next size up per a recommendation from Centec.
 
In that illustration there is no anti syphon. I would worry about that.

Good catch Glory. You are 100% correct. I left that out of the diagram by accident. One must be added so water doesn’t flow back into the generator.
 
The only disadvantage I see is that it might be more difficult to note raw water discharge without the exhaust gas spray effect. In my case, I can look down from the flybridge underway and verify all is well. Probably of no consequence; I’d have to be looking over at just the right time to prevent an overheat situation. Hopefully, I’d have a sensor shut down. But it’s worth noting the 70’ Hatteras next to me has a locked-up generator because the mate rerouted the raw water intake to a distant, but more accessible, seacock incapable of supplying sufficient volume. The impeller melted. Of course, they weren’t looking overboard to see the cloud of burning oil until they figured out why I was shouting and so aggressively gesticulating. Lucky there was no fire. Nevertheless, thousands in damage or maybe total loss of a 20KW unit. Rusty, don’t mean to imply your modification is unsound in any way.
 
The only disadvantage I see is that it might be more difficult to note raw water discharge without the exhaust gas spray effect. In my case, I can look down from the flybridge underway and verify all is well. Probably of no consequence; I’d have to be looking over at just the right time to prevent an overheat situation. Hopefully, I’d have a sensor shut down. But it’s worth noting the 70’ Hatteras next to me has a locked-up generator because the mate rerouted the raw water intake to a distant, but more accessible, seacock incapable of supplying sufficient volume. The impeller melted. Of course, they weren’t looking overboard to see the cloud of burning oil until they figured out why I was shouting and so aggressively gesticulating. Lucky there was no fire. Nevertheless, thousands in damage or maybe total loss of a 20KW unit. Rusty, don’t mean to imply your modification is unsound in any way.

No issues Robert. I did it on my Chris Craft and had it for 18 years with no issues. 5 years on the Hat so far with no problems. Both generators have shut down alarms that prevent over heating and low oil pressure.
 
I think I need to operate on the premise that anything I touch will turn to shit. The muffler looks fine to me, but I've got a new one coming. The discharge tube goes almost to the bottom of the canister. The aluminum elbow is quite badly corroded. I think I'll plumb a drain petcock into the muffler so if the generator ever fails to start soon enough, I can drain the accumulated water out of the muffler.
 

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I think I need to operate on the premise that anything I touch will turn to shit. The muffler looks fine to me, but I've got a new one coming. The discharge tube goes almost to the bottom of the canister. The aluminum elbow is quite badly corroded. I think I'll plumb a drain petcock into the muffler so if the generator ever fails to start soon enough, I can drain the accumulated water out of the muffler.
Be easier to just shut the seacock you have, right?
 

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