Flybridge helm seat pedestals- Pompanette unique base diameter and bolt pattern ?

[Milacron]

I have three that are perfectly functional but so scratched up that I'd like to replace the round tubular posts at the least. But it seems you have to buy a new base and post together. Seeing as the Pompanette versions of these are a bit expensive*...wondering..

1. What holds the post to the base ? (press fit, welded, threaded ?) If removable I wonder if anyone retail sells anodized and polished 2 7/8" OD aluminum tubing by the foot ?

2. Alternatively, do any of the other makes, such as Todd, have bases that fit the same bolt pattern ? Mine are 9 1/4" diameter base, whereas the Todd is listed at 9" diameter. But then one wonders if 9" is just a "nominal" figure and in reality the Todd's are 9 1/4" as well ?

While my seats are definitely Pomanette, the only manuf. sticker on my pedestals actually is Bomar, but apparently Pompanette bought Bomar at some point.

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*The 28" tall Pompanette pedestal is normally over $350 each...but Defender has them at $239.....still, the Todd version same height is around $89 !

 

[SeaEric]

IMHO you get what you pay for. My boat had Pompanette chairs and pedestals that lasted from 1966 until 2 years ago. The new ones were $3,000. If they last half as long they will probably outlive me. FYI the mounting bolt pattern was absolutely identical.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Having owned a Todd chair, and now a Pompanette, you get what you pay for indeed. The Todd is not garbage, but the Pompanette is MUCH better made and the hardware is more sturdy by far. The Pompanette is also made in the USA, which counts for a great deal. They are worth the difference.

 

[Milacron]

Having owned a Todd chair, and now a Pompanette, you get what you pay for indeed. The Todd is not garbage, but the Pompanette is MUCH better made and the hardware is more sturdy by far. The Pompanette is also made in the USA, which counts for a great deal. They are worth the difference.

1. I'm not discussing chairs but the pedestals, which are very simple affairs.

2. I only mentioned Todd as that seems to be the most popular...there may be many other alternatives with identical bases....thus the point of this topic....to see what else might work.

 

[rob71]

I have not tried before, but I think you could take the pedestals to a plating shop and just have them buffed and polished. If you go this route please post the outcome. I have scratched pedestals also.
Capt. Rob

 

[Milacron]

I have not tried before, but I think you could take the pedestals to a plating shop and just have them buffed and polished. If you go this route please post the outcome. I have scratched pedestals also.
Capt. Rob

That's probably a possibility for lightly scratched posts, but mine are really bad...scarred a better word... Like at some point someone had a single screw to lock the seat or foot rest, didn't bother to loosen the screw and turned the foot rest round and round anyway...then changed the footrest position vertically.

On one of the posts it's quite a mystery how they did it as the scarring is so high up....a 2 inch wide band of scarring just a few inches under where the seat assembly mounts. Seeing as the seat base won't go down any further and the footrest would be up waaaay too high if there, I am baffled how the heck did that happen in the first place ?

I could turn them on a metal lathe, leaving the material full diameter only where the seat, foot rest and base are now....but not worth the trouble considering I'd be turning off the clear anodize as well such that they would start to pitt and corrode too soon.

 

[jim rosenthal]

I have found that all the manufacturers use different dimensions, thus preventing interchanges. Also the hardware seems to differ, so the pieces can't be mixed from one brand to the other.

Aren't you in FL? You might try Sailorman or one of the other used shops. They might have used Pompanette pedestals in better nick than the ones you have now.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Also, you could have the current ones powder-coated, couldn't you? that might improve their looks and still preserve function as it currently is.

 

[Milacron]

Aren't you in FL?

No, southern SC coast Probably seems like I'm in FL from past conversations here, as the boat came from Naples and we traveled all over FL so many times on the search for a boat.

Power coat wouldn't do in this case unless I also turned below the scarring on a metal lathe. By the time I did all that I might as well bite the bullet and buy new Pompannette pedestals. Just surprising Todd, Tracy, Magnum, Wise, Taco....plus others I don't know about, would all be different.

 

[bobk]

I was just browsing for small ID aluminum tube. There are many suppliers offering 6061 it in all sorts of sizes and thickness.... if you can separate yours from the base.

Bobk

 

[SeaEric]

1. I'm not discussing chairs but the pedestals, which are very simple affairs.

I thought I went in the direction of answering your question based upon my research/experience/legwork on the same project. My project also happened to include the chairs.

Inasmuch as you are the smartest guy in the room - always - and dismiss those that try to help you, I shall not make that mistake again. I'm sure you'll figure it all out.

 

[Cricket]

It's bad enough he keeps coming on here asking ignorant questions regarding his Viking Step Child of a boat while offering NOTHING in return; but it's worse that the good people on here continue to offer help/advise to this ingrate who shows NO RESPECT in return or worse.

 

[Milacron]

1. I'm not discussing chairs but the pedestals, which are very simple affairs.

I thought I went in the direction of answering your question based upon my research/experience/legwork on the same project. My project also happened to include the chairs.

Inasmuch as you are the smartest guy in the room - always - and dismiss those that try to help you, I shall not make that mistake again. I'm sure you'll figure it all out.

As I wasn't commenting on your post, I'm a bit mystified by your reaction. FWIW, your pedestals and chairs do look very nice.

 

[Milacron]

It's bad enough he keeps coming on here asking ignorant questions regarding his Viking Step Child of a boat while offering NOTHING in return; but it's worse that the good people on here continue to offer help/advise to this ingrate who shows NO RESPECT in return or worse.

the question is regarding helm chair pedestals common to many boat manufacturers so it not Hatteras specific. As to offering nothing in return, you either aren't paying attention or have honesty issues. As to no respect, thank you for the Viking insults, very mature and respectful of you.

 

[Boatsb]

Maybe you should take your toy boat and go home. Its apparent you cant play nice here.

I'm a wise ass. You only make half of that description and its not the wise part.

 

[Milacron]

Maybe you should take your toy boat and go home. Its apparent you cant play nice here.

I'm a wise ass. You only make half of that description and its not the wise part.

it's one of the great mysteries of Internet forums..where "playing nice" seems to be the most important goal. And then the reaction to perceived not playing nice is the polar opposite of this against the "not nice" perpetrator.

Honestly, I think your particular problem is an inferiority complex. Which I don't understand, as you seem smart enough most of the time and do know marine issues pretty well.

 

[Boatsb]

it's one of the great mysteries of Internet forums..where "playing nice" seems to be the most important goal. And then the reaction to perceived not playing nice is the polar opposite of this against the "not nice" perpetrator.

Honestly, I think your particular problem is an inferiority complex. Which I don't understand, as you seem smart enough most of the time and do know marine issues pretty well.

But I also learned when to be polite and ask for help without bitching people out. Your just socially abrasive. Like road rash many of us have experienced it and would not like to do it again.

 

[Milacron]

But I also learned when to be polite and ask for help without bitching people out. Your just socially abrasive. Like road rash many of us have experienced it and would not like to do it again.

Copy/paste exactly what I typed in this topic that is "bitching people out"

 

[SeaEric]

it's one of the great mysteries of Internet forums..where "playing nice" seems to be the most important goal. And then the reaction to perceived not playing nice is the polar opposite of this against the "not nice" perpetrator.

You have been offered plenty of polite, sincere, thoughtful advice and information along the way. Most folks would take what they can use from that and kindly disregard the rest. Somehow, you just don't seem satisfied to do that.

At this point, there is nothing much left to add but to respectfully suggest that you go #### yourself.

 

[rsmith]

IMHO you get what you pay for. My boat had Pompanette chairs and pedestals that lasted from 1966 until 2 years ago. The new ones were $3,000. If they last half as long they will probably outlive me. FYI the mounting bolt pattern was absolutely identical.

Just want to complement you on your boat. All the pics I've seen she really looks great!