Floor covering

[Trojan]

I'm going to recover the aft deck on my 43. I'm removing the carpet and putting in that new vinyl teak. A dealer here just received the OK to become a dealer. He quoted Me $70. bucks a square ft. installed. Does that sound like the price is in line? It should run me about a grand. Twice as much as carpet but it should last 4 times as long or better and no mold from a wet carpet. The only catch is I must wait till spring to have it installed. It must be 54 + degrees for 48 hours after installation.

BILL

 

[SeaEric]

That price is exactly correct for a basic "cookie cut" install with no bells and whilstles, like margin borders and such. The price can go up to $85 or more if the deck and install is more complex. I am the Flexiteek dealer here on the Chesapeake. It is a great product, but yes a bit pricey. The ambient temp should be 60 to 80F for the optimal install. If you're doing the aft deck of a 43 DCMY, you may want to check your math again. I don't believe a grand will do it.

I'm looking to get some Flexiteek out there installed on customers boats for others to see. The more folks who see it, the more will want it. I plan to give Dr. Jim a deal on the aft deck of his 36C. If anyone else around the Md/Del area would like to take a look at Flexiteek, let me know.

 

[Angela]

If your aft deck gets any sun exposure, be sure that the product you are using has UV protection. The Plasteak I used inside, in the heads, does not. These products are often made, one for outdoors, and another for indoors. Maybe they've improved since I bought the stuff a year ago. I'd like to see ALL of it be UV stable so you can use it wherever you want.

 

[SeaEric]

Ang, Flexiteek is only for outdoor use. Its texture, similar to natural teak makes it difficult to clean in an interior install. It is intended to be washed with a brush and a hose, or even a powerwasher if necessary. It is very stable colorwise. In fact, the color goes right through the entire thickness of the deck panel. There are no seams because each panel is welded together per a template of the deck area, made by the installer. There are a lot photos of Flexiteek on my yacht refit web site if you'd like to take a look. www.yachtscapes.com

 

[Pascal]

$1000 for an aft deck ? I don't know big the aft deck is on the 43 but the 53 is about 150sq ft.

your $1000 guestimate is off by ONE ZERO !

i can't see myself paying, $50, $60, $70 a sq ft for plastic even if it's called plasteak. sorry... the real thing is much cheaper...

http://www.island-teak.com/products.htm

you can get teak decking for under $10 a sq ft. yes it's more labor to install, plus the caulking, etc... and it's a little more maintenance... but it's the real thing.

i replace the carpet last month... i found some nice stuff at HD, exterior grade, but i didn't put it all the way to the toe rail. I left about 18" all around so that the carpet doesn't pump out the water. it dries very quickly... all for a few $ per sq ft.

 

[SeaEric]

God bless anyone who has the desire, the $$ and the fortitude to install real teak decking on their fiberglass boat. Besides the never ending maintenence, the thought of piercing the skin of my glass deck with all of the thousands of fasteners necessary for a wooden teak deck install makes me quiver.

Pascal, With all due respect- Flexiteek will never wish to compete with those who will be satisfied to go to Home Depot and buy their best indoor/outdoor carpet, nor will they ever try to. However, the concept of not desiring to have "plastic" decking on your plastic boat escapes me. You have plastic decking now. It merely has Home Depot carpeting covering over it.

 

[Pete]

Eric, have a business opportunity you may want to consider. Lets start with a question. What teak do many of us have on the exterior of our boats, installed by Hatteras, that simply can not be maintained, but looks really nice for a few days after a week of work? Answer, the teak inserts in the bow pulpit. Now for the opportunity. Hatteras had just a few model of the pulpits that they installed on many size boats. The teak is easily removed, but what to replace it. How about your your plastic teak, precut in a kit for the couple of different bow pulpit sizes. Would be nice if it had a similar thickness to the original teak since the ends are visable. Looking for a first customer?

Pete

 

[Skip]

Eric-
Please check you inbox. I also email your office
Skip

 

[Pascal]

i can't say that i'm satisfied with home depot carpet... although it looks pretty good and zero maintenance.

the days you needed to drill the deck to install teak are long gone. all new installs are done with modern glues adn sealant... sure it's a little more maintenance but you cant beat the feel, something i'm reminded of everytime i step aboard Mario's 58. all for about $12 to $15 incl glue... plus 2 or 3 days of work...

maybe i'm cheap... but i cant' see spending $10k+ on flooring for my aft deck. and i dont' think I'm alone feeling that way. although i guess considering how fast flexiteek prices are rising, demand must be pretty strong. they were quoting $35 to $40 a sq ft in feb for a no frill job.

 

[SeaEric]

they were quoting $35 to $40 a sq ft in feb for a no frill job.

There was a short period of time when Flexiteek was quoting panel cost for DIY. No more. $35 to $40 is the material cost to a dealer of the deck panel alone. No shipping, no mastic to install, no labor, no patterning, and no overhead and profit. $70 to $80 is the installed price range which represents a completed job depending again on options and complexity.

Interestingly, FOUR WINNS offers a Flexiteek swim platform on some of their new models for which they charge 35% more for as an OEM option that I can do it for as an aftermarket install. Most of their new boat customers are buying the Flexiteek. I have been out and repaired one of their factory installs that had a bubble in it.

The other interesting thing is: Each boat, each job should be patterned individually. Boat manufacturers have a series of molds that they use to built the same model boat or component. You would think that one 2007 33' express of a certain builder would be the same as another. Not so.

So for the Hatteras bow pulpit, same deal. For a good job, it should be patterned on the boat that it's being installed on.

And Pascal, that 1/4 inch thick teak decking that you linked in an earlier post- Thats not thick enough material to last more than a few seasons with scrubbing, cleaning and sanding. Not to mention getting a fastener in it and a plug over the fastener. The Cranchi/Azimut/Sunseeker euro boat thin teak decks that are failing in short order are mostly being retrofitted with Flexiteek.

 

[Trojan]

My aft deck is only about 12 X 12 that's 144 sq ft. times 70 is $1008. How do you figure 10 grand?

BILL

 

[fissioneng]

Uh, er, you left the zero off the 70. Try again. Should be $10,080.

 

[mstailey]

"My aft deck is only about 12 X 12 that's 144 sq ft. times 70 is $1008. How do you figure 10 grand?"

Hey Bill,

Where I went to school 144 sq/ft * 70 = $10,080.00.

You have to understand folks, we people here in MI start to get brain freeze when the weather gets cold!

 

[Pascal]

Blll

in windows.... START>ACCESSORIES>CALCULATOR type in the numbers, press ENTER

hard to believe that decking could cost $10k, isn't it ?

 

[DuckWalk]

Granted while 10,080 is more than expected when you compare the cost of teak 30-40/ sqft installed then add maintenece and longevity you are probably going to be looking at spending more for teak if you use your boat alot and keep it nice and clean plus with the plasteak you dont have to do anything but wash it

kinda seems like a no brainer to me

 

[SeaEric]

The fatal flaw in all of this discussion is the actual cost of a real teak deck, measured, fabricated and installed is NOT $30 to $40 per square foot.

Take a look at the pricing here http://www.teakdeckcompany.com/price.htm for teak deck panels. These prices do not include making the patterns, shipping, or installation.

Also, do not confuse "plasteak" or "plasdeck" with Flexiteek. They are way different products.

 

[Trojan]

Oh shit didn't that start something. I stand corrected. LOL

BILL

 

[REBrueckner]

Preferences of course vary, but I find home rug runners with rubber backing very convenient,cost effective and non slip on my bridge deck. Where water resides during, I simply roll them up.

I wash them once a year, let them air dry, shake them out over the side between washings then buy new at about five year intervals. Old ones are great for winter time in the off season use to clean snow off feet and keep new ones nice for summer. I also use an old one inside to protect my salon rug during the winter/maintenance season.

And you can change color schemes to match your mood.

 

[Angela]

When I laid the Plasteak in my heads last December, I contemplated putting it on my aft deck, including pricing it, but it's not UV stable, so I decided not to do it. It was around $900 to do the whole aft deck which is roughly 12 x 10. There is NO way I'd pay $10K for any floor anywhere! $70 a square foot for Plasteak, Flexiteak, whatever...is insane (that's just my opinion!). I paid $7.50 a square foot for the Plasteak. I'm very happy with the Plasteak, by the way, and it feels good under foot.

 

[yachtsmanbill]

Preferences of course vary, but I find home rug runners with rubber backing very convenient,cost effective and non slip on my bridge deck. Where water resides during, I simply roll them up.

I wash them once a year, let them air dry, shake them out over the side between washings then buy new at about five year intervals. Old ones are great for winter time in the off season use to clean snow off feet and keep new ones nice for summer. I also use an old one inside to protect my salon rug during the winter/maintenance season.

And you can change color schemes to match your mood.

I agree with you Rob... I borrowed a bunch of brown ones from work before I retired and they are great. Always lay flat, OSHA approved! Some I cut to fit. The other good thing, here on the lakes, is to toss a line around one and troll for 5 minutes--- they come out like new! Retrieve it, roll it up and stand it in the corner for 15 minutes and its dry. No rot or mildew either. Mine are ARAMARK brand. If you're pals with the service guy, you can exchange them too. ws