Eastern US proposed coastal speed limit

[GCSI]

https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/acti...H4yVbrxxWUd7YUohdfhkrEqpyWl7HiWkx4Y_cuOe18WHI

 

[Scarlett]

Does that include the ICW?

 

[Captain Ralph]

Does that include the ICW?

Are there Right Whales in the ditch?

 

[Captain Ralph]

Other than boaters harassing whales and then getting broached, I have never heard of a private boat striking a coastal whale.
Offshore Jax, Big ships suck up the whales and chop them up.

furz in der Luft

Another stinker for personal boats.
As the manatee fiascos, this will be another costly waist of time and painful/wrongful enforcement on the recreational boater.

 

[cww]

This is ridiculous.

 

[Pascal]

I believe the limit was already there for larger ships but most likely ignored. I guess the feds are going to hire another 67000 armed agents to enforce it.

Brilliant move as usual… slowing ships down will just increase shipping delays and costs.

 

[Glory]

Crazy tree hugger concept!

 

[52CMY]

Reading through those documents that support this "option 5" (expanding 10knot limit to all boats >35ft, expanding the zone out to 200 miles off the coast and making compliance mandatory and enforceable) is pretty shocking. The government agents that wrote this clearly only have degrees in environmental "science" and not not a lick of time on a boat on the Atlantic!
The fact that they conclude that slowing us down will save money in fuel (for boaters that are too stupid to realize faster burns more fuel?), reduce climate change, reduce underwater noise pollution and save the 5 whales that have been hit by boats between 35-65ft from florida to Maine since 2008 is a WIN, WIN, WIN no brainer is frightning.

 

[q240z]

Regulators gotta regulate.

Congress passes unconstitutional laws that say "Executive Branch Agency X shall do whatever it deems necessary to achieve our desired goals" and they're off to the races.

And having worked for a federal agency, I can assure you that commenting is fairly pointless. They're required to solicit for comments, but they're not required to pay any heed to comments received.

 

[zigzag930]

Funny how the line ends at the Florida border. Happy to live here!!!

On the other hand, this is the most insane maritime law suggestion I can recall in my entire life. No way this gets any traction, less serious consideration.

 

[carolinacoast]

The Gulf Stream is 80 miles offshore from Savannah, and there are some very expensive boats purchased for fishing that day's mission. There is not a chance this gets enforced around here. Is this a rule in search of a problem? We have lots of tides and shoals to slow the speeders down inshore.

 

[rsmith]

Auto fines based on AIS snitch program. Just wait and see.

 

[Bob Bradley]

... No way this gets any traction, less serious consideration....

Oh yeah, the gummint never enforces unreasonable restrictions. Like say, banning fishing for mako sharks.

 

[Hat52MY]

This has been in place for vessels 65+ in Florida for many years. Not sure I have ever heard of any whale strikes ever reported locally. If they change the requirements to vessels 35’+ it will kill the offshore boating industry. True logic has left the building on this one. Because of a few the rest of us have to endure the pain….remember that kid in Kindergarten who had no common sense and ruined the fun for the rest of the class? It’s because of “that kid” the rest of us have to endure crazy laws like this…. You cant regulate stupid.

 

[q240z]

This follows a long-established pattern across federal agencies, where environmentalists use regulations and enforcement to accomplish their wish list when it couldn't be done under normal free market or constitutional means.

In DC, the (thoroughly unconstitutional) National Park Service refused to offer a lease or even a concessionaire contract for the former Tommy Long's Anacostia Marina. It was the only place with a travel lift at the dead end of the Potomac. If you had a 15' or bigger beam, with Anacostia Marina closed for good, it's at least a 100 mile cruise to the first marina that could haul you. Owners of smaller boats can drive 15 miles south to Fort Washington Marina to be hauled.

Anyway, now Tommy Long's place is...get ready for it...a paddle board and kayak rental and launch site. The thinking is clearly "let's make icky powerboats so inconvenient they just don't come here."

Don't think they won't impose their iron-fist rules on you just because their ideas make zero practical sense. Environmentalism is a religion, and our federal government is riddled with its high priests.

 

[1trout]

I now love my 32 Flybridge Fisherman out of Beaufort NC even more. Seriously, this will really hurt the Beaufort/Morehead City area commercial and recreational fishermen ... but I expect many will just shut down their AIS and continue on.

 

[Pascal]

So… all this to save a couple of wales yet it’s ok to kill tens of thousands of birds with wind farms…

The problem is that they re going to boost enforcement and not just using AIS whcih can be turned off but with patrols. NOAA wind be afraid to fly their planes to catch speeders.

 

[Hat52MY]

I now love my 32 Flybridge Fisherman out of Beaufort NC even more. Seriously, this will really hurt the Beaufort/Morehead City area commercial and recreational fishermen ... but I expect many will just shut down their AIS and continue on.

Wait until they rewrite the rules and turn you 32’ into a 40’…. :-/

 

[rsmith]

This government has completely run amuck 87000 IRS agents with guns shaking every last dime out of our pockets to coming up with draconian laws so you can’t practically use your boat. I’m waiting for the 55 mph national speed limit to come back. Pro this time it will be 35mph. So you can’t really go anywhere. It’s all about containment and control.

 

[zigzag930]

Hat52MY - where is this written? I did a quick search and could not find any such regulation in Florida. Just curious....

This has been in place for vessels 65+ in Florida for many years. Not sure I have ever heard of any whale strikes ever reported locally. If they change the requirements to vessels 35’+ it will kill the offshore boating industry. True logic has left the building on this one. Because of a few the rest of us have to endure the pain….remember that kid in Kindergarten who had no common sense and ruined the fun for the rest of the class? It’s because of “that kid” the rest of us have to endure crazy laws like this…. You cant regulate stupid.