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Like Rsmith I would like to know what the learning curve is like to fly a drone.
 
We've transitioned from radio controlled single-rotor helicopters to the newer quad-copter drones the past couple of years. The technology is definitely improving and the drones are getting much easier to learn to operate. The battery life and crash-worthiness are also much better, but IMHO the biggest break-through has been in the controller. Instead of a battery-hungry traditional radio-control unit with a couple of sticks (up-down, right-left, etc), you now just download a free app on your smart-phone. They've automated the most difficult phases of flight (take-offs and landing) so that you literally just touch a "take-off" button and the drone will effortlessly fly up about 4 feet into the air where you can then learn to slowly maneuver by gentle touches on the screen of your phone. If you get into trouble while you are flying around, your just take your fingers off the screen and it will stabilize and stop its motion in any direction immediately. Similar to the "takeoff", after you learn to maneuver around a bit, you can just touch a "land" button and it will perfectly settle on the ground. Another benefit of the smart phone app, is that the camera on the drone is projected on your smart phone screen while you are flying, which is seriously cool, and you can snap pictures or video from there. It had not even occurred to me to use this for getting cool pics of the Hatteras, but I'm definitely going to give that a try next week!!
 
That is really cool!

I am looking forward to some pictures of your boat.

Jonathan
 
We just purchased the 3DR solo for our GoPro from Best Buy yesterday. The Hubster, who is a professional helicopter pilot, and spent his entire life flying RC aircraft says it practically flies itself. He's not kidding. It is so smooth and intuitive even I can do it without any training. It has a built in memory, and returns itself to its starting GPS location as the battery power gets low. This could be an issue if you are using it to capture action shots while underway! But what is great, you could be underway, bring the camera up behind you, and it will follow you on its own. They are also the only manufacturer who if, your drone develops a mind of its own and suddenly takes off in the wrong direction (an issue with all models, I hear), they will replace the unit for free after confirming (through the transmitter software) that it was a product glitch, not operator error.

While in the store, we spoke to another customer who received the same model for Xmas. He had never flown anything RC or otherwise in his life, and said he was " a pro" at it in an afternoon. Absolutely loves the thing.

They are not cheap. The 3DR is sold separately from the necessary gimble, and requires a GoPro or similar camera in addition. I think we spent about $1300 on the whole kit, including protective case, after a price matching 20% discount. That does not include the cost of the GoPro. There is another manufacturer, DJI which is about $1300, all inclusive including its own off-brand camera.
 
sweet red said:
We just purchased the 3DR solo for our GoPro from Best Buy yesterday. The Hubster, who is a professional helicopter pilot, and spent his entire life flying RC aircraft says it practically flies itself. He's not kidding. It is so smooth and intuitive even I can do it without any training. It has a built in memory, and returns itself to its starting GPS location as the battery power gets low. This could be an issue if you are using it to capture action shots while underway! But what is great, you could be underway, bring the camera up behind you, and it will follow you on its own. They are also the only manufacturer who if, your drone develops a mind of its own and suddenly takes off in the wrong direction (an issue with all models, I hear), they will replace the unit for free after confirming (through the transmitter software) that it was a product glitch, not operator error.

While in the store, we spoke to another customer who received the same model for Xmas. He had never flown anything RC or otherwise in his life, and said he was " a pro" at it in an afternoon. Absolutely loves the thing.

They are not cheap. The 3DR is sold separately from the necessary gimble, and requires a GoPro or similar camera in addition. I think we spent about $1300 on the whole kit, including protective case, after a price matching 20% discount. That does not include the cost of the GoPro. There is another manufacturer, DJI which is about $1300, all inclusive including its own off-brand camera.
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That sounds like a big step up from the unit we have (and sounds incredible!!). If someone wants to "dip their toe in the water" a little less expensively, the "entry level" unit we have is about $250 (including the camera). The app to control from your smart phone is free. http://ardrone2.parrot.com/ I have to admit that the one you referred to above is probably a much better option if the $$ are ok, and using it as a "chase plane" for the Hatt would be much more advantageous.
 
I'm on my 4th quad. I say start small and get the feel for the flight pattern and control of the transmitter. Now with the accelerometer (sp), GPS, FPV, return to home and other add ons. They are really easy to fly. Now why pay a company for photos when you can position your quad and snap a pic or video. The cameras are now 1080HD or even 4K. Pics can be crop. The new FAA rule sucks but it's also because of irresponsible flyers being careless. Make sure when you upgrade, get a quad that has a gimbal. The video wont be all shakey and sorts. I recommend them but please be responsible.
 
I've been looking at drone/cameras for a few years. Haven't pulled the trigger yet. Then I saw this: https://www.lily.camera/ which looks really cool!
 
I watched the video the other day. It is very impressive. But, I think it needs an optional controller that allows you to fly it like any other drone.

I did not see that capability.

Keep an eye out for hawks. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhDG_WBIQgc
 
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All this automation will make real R/C pilots a lost tradition....kinda like real stick and rudder pilots LOL. I'll still enjoy my coax R/C copters when I dig them out. The technology is pretty amazing though.
 
I recently learned that the company making the Lily drone has gone tits up. They had million$ in "pre-orders" will be interesting to see if anyone gets their money back. I would doubt it. In the meantime here's some cool drone footage of "Gene Machine" 55m Amels crossing the Atlantic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvpY1Tqofc
 
SeaEric said:
I recently learned that the company making the Lily drone has gone tits up. They had million$ in "pre-orders" will be interesting to see if anyone gets their money back. I would doubt it.
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Ouch, that's a sting: https://petapixel.com/2017/01/12/lily-drone-shuttering-34m-pre-orders/

Best to stick with known copanies. DJI makes some amazing stuff. My neighbor plays with his $1500 toy and the features are way better than the military drones back in 1998 lol


Here's some foldable drones...I guess go-pro makes one too https://petapixel.com/2016/09/27/dji-unveils-mavic-pro-foldable-ultra-portable-camera-drone/
 
If I invest in a drone/camera for boat photography I think it makes sense to buy one that can swim. They're out there. Just need to decide which one...
 
I'm on my second DJI. Its amazing how fast the technology advances. DJI, from my understanding, is the market leader in drone technology. I picked my last one up in SAMS club. They are not water proof but they have so many safety & advanced features (like return home) I do not hesitate to fly it over water. Jump in and enjoy the fun, just remember to register with the FAA!
 
Remember drones are no-no for commercial use...unless you follow all the rules. Gotta make sure the government keeps us safe; paperwork provides a great protective barrier!
 
nautibake said:
We've transitioned from radio controlled single-rotor helicopters to the newer quad-copter drones the past couple of years. The technology is definitely improving and the drones are getting much easier to learn to operate. The battery life and crash-worthiness are also much better, but IMHO the biggest break-through has been in the controller. Instead of a battery-hungry traditional radio-control unit with a couple of sticks (up-down, right-left, etc), you now just download a free app on your smart-phone. They've automated the most difficult phases of flight (take-offs and landing) so that you literally just touch a "take-off" button and the drone will effortlessly fly up about 4 feet into the air where you can then learn to slowly maneuver by gentle touches on the screen of your phone. If you get into trouble while you are flying around, your just take your fingers off the screen and it will stabilize and stop its motion in any direction immediately. Similar to the "takeoff", after you learn to maneuver around a bit, you can just touch a "land" button and it will perfectly settle on the ground. Another benefit of the smart phone app, is that the camera on the drone is projected on your smart phone screen while you are flying, which is seriously cool, and you can snap pictures or video from there. It had not even occurred to me to use this for getting cool pics of the Hatteras, but I'm definitely going to give that a try next week!!
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You mention the take off and land button. If you were using this to photograph a boat and your in open water and accidentely hit the land button will it come back to and land where you are or will it land right there in the water? Also does it have sensor on it to keep it from getting tangled in your outriggers or even say the rigging on a sailboat. It's one thing if your flying it but some of these seem so automated that I could easily see it ending up in the tower if it automatically returning to the controller from off the bow of the boat.

I see mention of the one from Best Buy that you mount your GoPro to. If you were to do that how do you know what the camera is even pointed at from where you are. You might think your filmimg the boat and actually just be filming the water 20 feet from it. The Drones with their own cameras you can see what your filming but I don't see how you would know whata GoPro is filming while operating it from 100 feet away.

Also that video of the drone filimg the Trawler is great. But was the drone on Lead, Beside, Follow, or being operateded manually because it went over the bridge when the boat went under, and it gained altitude when the trees got near it. How would he have flown it over the bridge while being underneath it and not able to see it. I'd like to maybe get one but I'm just not sure how they work. Also would it be necessary to have a waterproof one if planning to use by the ocean.

Tony
 
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