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Corroded window trim

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The alloy trim around the exterior windows on the main deck have patches of corrosion and bubbling paint. Has anyone ever unscrewed and removed them and had them powder coated? I was thinking of grinding out all the corrosion and filling the low spots with solder or Alumiweld, like the lead in old cars, then sanding flat and powder coating them Hatteras off-white. Any reason why this would not work if the melt point of the filler metal is higher than that of the powder coating oven? I am assuming I can find a powder color close to the Hatteras white.
 
There is a product called Lab-Metal that I've used in car restoration. Google Alvin Products. They make Hi-Temp Lab-Metal specifically for parts that are to be powder-coated. BTW, I plan to do a felt replacement project on my galley windows this spring and I know that I have some leaking spots that I plan to fill with Lab-Metal. It's good stuff, works well.
 
It would be much easier to strip, patch and paint what you have than removing already damaged/corroded frames and then trying to get them in shape, if possible, to be powder coated.
And there's also a possibility of further damage from the removal process. If you have to have powder coated then new aluminum frames would be the best route. Ultimate is fiberglass frames.
 
I have asked this before , but has anyone replaced their windshield frames , and are you satisfied? I feel that the fiberglass frames are not as strong.
 
So far I have replaced the windshields and galley windows and as of this week, I am replacing the salon windows with Brodus’s fiberglass windows. Every time I consider grinding, filling and painting the originals. I went through this process back in 2004 and got a decent amount of years out of the repair. And although the cost is high to replace, the end result is well worth it. I would take into consideration how long you plan on keeping the boat. If this is your last boat, replace the windows and move onto the next project.
 
Here are my frames out, sand blasted and being painted. I rebedded the glass and checked for leaks after. The frames were in really good shape, I had to fix some holes where there had been some snaps and I filled and faired with JB weld.

Walt Hoover
 

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Looks nice. That’s somewhere on my todo list. New frames are very pricey
 
I have asked this before , but has anyone replaced their windshield frames , and are you satisfied? I feel that the fiberglass frames are not as strong.

Not sure why you would think fiberglass frames aren't as strong??
They're stronger, they become part of the boat after being attached with epoxy or something similar.
 
My next project.

Personally, mine’s gonna be stripped, corrosion ground down, corrosion-x’d, filled, then repainted original color. Keeping mine in as good original shape as possible is important to me. (Glutton for punishment that I am).
 
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IMHO, sand them down, apply zinc chromate primer (aircraft spruce), smooth with body filler, prime and paint.
 
IMHO, sand them down, apply zinc chromate primer (aircraft spruce), smooth with body filler, prime and paint.

I’m leaning that way myself after reading these posts. Is a waterproof bondo needed or can I just use car stuff?
 
Thank goodness my windows are in great shape - best thing about the boat was the windows never leaked.

On the other hand, the big windscreen up on the bridge is all oxidized and peeling. I'd imagine it's the same process - grind it down to metal, prime and paint.

Since that big thing can be removed, I'm tempted to see how hard it will be for a couple guys to get it down onto the dock.
 
Thank goodness my windows are in great shape - best thing about the boat was the windows never leaked.

On the other hand, the big windscreen up on the bridge is all oxidized and peeling. I'd imagine it's the same process - grind it down to metal, prime and paint.

Since that big thing can be removed, I'm tempted to see how hard it will be for a couple guys to get it down onto the dock.

Yours isn’t factory original most lik was fabricated in pieces. I’d look into having it Re anodized if it’s not pitted.
 
Coating aluminum is no simple task. unanodized aluminum quickly, as in within hours, begins to produce aluminum oxide on the surface. This ultimately powdery type surface will turn to heavy corrosion without the presence of oxygen. saying that another way, any aluminum with even a hint of oxidation that gets a coat of paint over it will begin to corrode like crazy. that's why the painted aluminum has bubbling paint anywhere its scratched. Having done all of this myself to original hatteras frames, i would have gone with fiberglass had i known what i know now about how much effort is involved to coat aluminum correctly, and I did do it correctly. preparing the exterior of corroded frames requires all oxidation and anodize to be removed. once its removed you have precious little time to do any repairs. Tank stripping all anodize and welding your repairs would be far better than plastic filler. The anodizing company will then dip the frames again to clean them and reanodize everything inside and out. its up to you to get the surface looking good as all sanding scratches will show right through the anodized surface. Then you can sand the areas you want painted and as mentioned before use zinc etch prime (no more zinc chromate-good bye variprime, FU epa) followed by a no sand primer and the top coat you want. Its a lot of dedicated, attention to minute detail type work to do it right and in the end unless you really want those aluminum frame or concerned about weight, you're better off buying the fiberglass versions. oh yeah, good luck finding anodize shops with tanks large enough to dip frames the size we are talking about, they are few and far between.
 
The more I read the more I'm heading for fiberglass. I'll do one or two windows a year while they still look halfway decent. Starting this year.
 
For those of you that want to restore versus replace, I have the salon windows from my ‘53 consisting of two sliders and two triangle shaped. Free for the taking. It will be easier to restore these and then change out instead of having to board up your boat while your windows are out. Local pickup in York, Pa. or perhaps Baltimore, Md. I am not interested in shipping. I also have some various forward windshields as well. Best to contact me via email. ben@skippersmarine.com
Thanks
 
Just a few more screws under the brow to put in and finished. I like the look.
 

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I gotta' chime in with a stoopit question:

Is there a downside to getting windows/windshields/aluminum tower, etc etc powder coated versus re-anodized?
Does powder-coating not give the metal some protection against corrosion that anodizing does??

I used a local powder-coating guy a couple times for various things - one was an interesting radar arch I found on Craigslist for nothing. It came out very well.
 
My experience is that anodizing lasts longer , especially hard anodizing, which is about three times thicker coating than normal anodizing. Usually you have to paint it for appearance.
 

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