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Canal Cruise Anyone?

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This summer, several boats are planning a cruise through the Erie, Oswego and Rideau Canals and where ever. This is not a structured cruise, just friends touring new waters (to us). First mate Gayle and I will be aboard Chateau de Mer (48MY), WaltP and Monica on Guppy (also 48MY), Don and Barbara Tonelli on Seaweeds (true trawler) as well as a couple of other characters who are planning to do parts of the trip.

The reason for this post is to alert/invite other Hatt owners to join in for all or parts of the trip. We will be running at displacement speeds, starting from the northern Chesapeake Bay about mid June and returning in August sometime.

We'd also welcome any advice you experienced canal cruisers can offer.

Bob Kassal
Chateau de Mer
Lying sunny Marathon and watching the Weather Channel
 
Ah man, that sounds like fun Bob. Hope you guys have a great time, and knowing you and the crew of Guppy, I'm sure you will. If anybody needs extra crew or even a captain... :)
 
Check height and draft requirements for the canals. 1st half or Erie to Oswego and Oswego canals are OK with probably 22 ft. air draft, second half of Erie is low.

Fun things when we were there included:

Stop on Hudson River and rent a car at Catskill, NY Marina to tour the beautiful area. We stayed there 3 days to see Hyde Park (Roosevelt homes and FDR library), the Vanderbuilt mansion, the Rockefeller mansion, and I loved the Rhinebeck Aerodrome. It's an operating antique airplane museum and flying field, whith some great old planes and engines on display. Unbelievably, they still fly some of these planes that are more than 50 years old.

Stop at Brewerton, NY and rent a car to go see the Corning, NY Glass Museum and stop on the way back at Taughannock Falls state park to see the high falls (small but higher than Niagra Falls and a nice trail through the park to get to it). Can also stop at Canandaigua, NY to see the Sonnenberg Mansion and see some of the Finnger Lakes area.

Stay at the long free dock in Waterford, NY at the start of the Erie Canal. Very nice and welcoming to cruisers. You can go for a walk along the old original Champlain canal segment there to see the original teeny, shallow mule power canals of the 19th century.

Oswego Canal, stop for lunch at the free dock of the teeny town of Phoenix, NY where the "Bridgehouse Brats", school kids on vacation, will bike for a few bucks tip to get you pizza or sandwiches from the local stores. Dock at the free dock at the end of Oswego Canal right before the last lock to Lake Ontario. You can walk over to see Fort Oswego from there too.

Definitely go up the St. Lawrence River through the 10,000 Islands area. It's beautiful cruising country.

In Rome, NY, there's a free dock that's just a wide spot in the Erie Canal with a nice, straight dock to tie up. It's a free public dock, but there's no electric or water available. There are lots of stores, an old fort and a restaurant in walking distance and a good restaurant that provides free rides if you call them.

Sacketts Harbor, NY on Lake Ontario if fine for overnight at the marina, but Ho-Hum, as is Clayton, NY just up the St. Lawrence.

If you go to the Canadian side of Lake Ontario, Kingston is a cruiser's dream. It's right at the start of the Rideau Canal. Plan on staying there a few days. They have a beautiful marina, right downtown, the farmer's market, free concerts, antique shows, lots of tourist things, take a cab to Fort Henry (magnificent and not to be missed including marching demos and firing the old canons). The fort guards the entrance to the Rideau Canal at the confluence of the canal, the St. Lawrence Seaway and Lake Ontario. Kingston also has lots of shops and stores, horse drawn carriage tours of the city, etc.

Have Fun!

Doug
 
doug it sounds like you did this trip and had a great time,or did a thourgh job planing. all great stops and good advise,except.....ithink when you said clayton,you were thinking cape vincent,clayton has the antique boat museum with scores of early boats, most in restored conditon. in early aug.is the antique boat show.hundreds of the finest boats in the country are on display. clayton is generaly seen has the place where the antique boat movement started,and sight of the first boat show of its type
 
Bob,

Doug gives a great rundown of the Erie Canal trip, I would add that the free dockage and bulkheads along the route can fill up quickly during the height of the season (late July early August). NY State has done quite alot of improvements to the canal system over the past few years and didn't charge fees for a couple of years. Given current budget constraints I doubt that will happen again.
We did the Rideau Canal/Ottawa/St. Lawrence Loop in 2006. It was a terrific cruise and great fun as is the 1000 Islands. The steps at Ottawa need to be experienced as does the City, so much to see. Let us know if we can be of any help. We live in the Hudson Valley region and would be happy to assist.

Brian.
 
Doug does know what he's talking about.... he did the great loop a couple of years ago.

Walt
 
I posted this before, but I thought you might enjoy looking at it. This is a friend of mine that just did the Trent Severn, Rideau, part of the St. Lawrence, and down part of Champlain. He did some nice side trips and there are many good photos. But, I warn you......he owns a Viking.

http://rayanddebsgreatloopcruise.blogspot.com/
 
I boated the 1000 Islands for about 30 years. It's truly a beautiful area. When you leave Oswego for Cape Vincent the typical route is going past Galoo Island (spelling) then on into Cape V. Unless you are tired after the crossing I'd skip Cape V, unless you want to do some great bass fihing. Clayton isn't much except for the museum. I recall when it first opened and how it has grown. It is truly worth seeing. The action as far as towns are concerned is in Alexandria Bay. I highly reccommend if you have the time, try to go to Alex Bay. There is Boldt Castle on Heart Island in the Bay, accessable by boat only. They have shuttles to the Island, and there is dockage for private vessels, call ahead first though. Also if you have the time, a day or 2 or more cruising around the islands is something worth doing.
I could go n forever about this area. LOL.

The New York State Parks System has done a remarkable job. There are several great Parks on the river in the area some with with Marinas and/or dockage.

Many people not familiar with the great lakes are not aware of the storms that can come out of no where. On the Erie Canal Oneida Lake can be tricky, very shallow, stick well to the channel in that lake.

If I can help in your planning through the Erie Canal or the 1000 Islands area let me know. I used to go from Breweron NY, just north of Syracuse 3 or 4 times a year, to the Clayton, Alex Bay area. I also drove tour boats in the islands many many years ago.

It's a great trip with tons of opportunity for side trips. The Erie Canal going west from Brewerton, NY, has canals joining the erie canal to the finger lakes.

Keep us posted you have a wonderful adventure ahead of you.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. We'll get into some serious planning soon and surely will have more questions. Someone mentioned a preferred location for crossing into Canada via the Thousand Islands area but I've forgotten it. Thoughts?

I'm using Nobeltec and BSB charts for navigation. I have everything I would need to do the loop, but wonder if there are compatible charts for the Rideau and St. Laurence R.?

Bob Kassal
Chateau de Mer
1981 48 MY
 
There should be digital charts available. I've got them for the Trent Severn.
 
Bob,

For us to join you we need to nail down some dates! Any idea when the go and return dates are from Long Branch?

Noel
 
Noel, I hope you can join us. We are not likely to keep to a tight schedule, so pick it up when you can and head back as necessary. Tentatively we will depart Baltimore early in the second week of June. It will take about four days to New york/Sandy Hook. I understand travel in the Canals is about six knots. Same deal on the return. No schedule, but my goal is to be back in the Bay about the second-third week of August. Hope this helps.....

WaltP, time to get started on that fresh water pump repair. Only three+ months to go.

Bob
 
Target date for pump repair or whatever is necessary is April 1. I want to wait until the freezing season is past. I was speaking to Noel a while ago and we are both looking into some sort of shallow well pump (110v). If it works, I will have it wired through the inverter so it can work under any circumstances. I will post progress reports..

Walt
 
Bob,

We might join for a weekend on the way North, And hopefully longer on the way back. I will need to know more about the return trip as it progresses.

Also we have a water pump repair to do too LOL
 

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