Can you identify this starter relay ?

[Milacron]

The penny is placed on there for size reference.

 

[Milacron]

Mid 90's vintage, no hint of manufacturer name or model anywhere... Stamped 24 volts and a serial number,made in USA....and that's all.

 

[krush]

What year and model hatters is it on? Sams can help with parts.

 

[rwappleton]

aahhhhhhh........problem is............it aint..........a Hatteras that is. Try calling viking!

 

[rwappleton]

Tell me to stop Scott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Milacron]

aahhhhhhh........problem is............it aint..........a Hatteras that is. Try calling viking!

Yeah I should have mentioned that tidbit but figured maybe Hatteras used them as well. Regardless, I found it via some Google image searches...made by Texas Industrial Electric, model 1119844.

 

[saltshaker]

Gotta love the Internet!

 

[SKYCHENEY]

I'm glad you found it and I'm glad you posted it. It really helps to reaffirm the difference between owning an older boat and owning an older Hatteras. I don't mean to beat up on you, but it does demonstrate to the rest of us that the support from Hatteras and Sams is not typical.

(remember, I'm partial to Gulfstar since my dad owned one, but I still bought a Hatteras)

Good luck with the boat. She is a beauty. Hopefully you make good memories with her.

 

[davidwigler]

I wonder why it has three hot leads. Is it a remote battery bank selector?

I also noticed the welding cable and how it has apparently held up well. How old is this vessel?

 

[SKYCHENEY]

I wonder why it has three hot leads. Is it a remote battery bank selector?

I also noticed the welding cable and how it has apparently held up well. How old is this vessel?

I thought welding cable was a "no-no". I see no problem with it, but others have stated that the cover is not as heavy as marine cable.

 

[saltshaker]

I also noticed the welding cable. Doubt it came from Gulfstar that way.

 

[luckydave215]

I don't understand why you guys don't like welding cable.
Have any of you actually worked in a weld shop?
Welding cable is routinely bent thirty zillion times, burned, smashed, ground, cut, doused with oils and strong solvents, soaked in hydrochloric acid, run over with heavy machinery, left out in the weather, and still last 20 years. Try that with marine cable.
In addition welding cable is made of hundreds fine strands that resist bending fatigue and vibration far better that typical "marine" cable.

 

[captddis]

Agreed.

 

[saltshaker]

I don't know why many say it's inferior but I doubt a manufacturer would deliver a boat with welding cable. My dad used welding cable in his boat when I was a kid and it lasted forever. He also made a long set of jumper cables so you could jump a full size car even when it was parked head in. I still have them 40 years later. So what would be the down side to welding cable over marine battery cable? Just curious as I have heard others say it's the insulation and not being tinned. Please enlighten us to the differences

 

[Milacron]

I wonder why it has three hot leads. Is it a remote battery bank selector?

How old is this vessel?

1993. There are two of these. When one presses "engine start" they temporarily combine battery banks for extra amperage and double the voltage for the 24 volt starters.

 

[Avenger]

Welding cable is usually not tinned and the jacket supposedly is not as oil resistant as marine cable. That being said, others here have stated that Hatteras did use welding cable on their early builds. My boat had welding cable for the batteries, but that was probably installed during the repower. No idea what was there originally.

 

[Boatsb]

The jacket is not to spec for marine use by today's standards plus it's a very fine strand and succeptable to breakage from corrosion.

Other than that it's an insurance issue.

 

[captddis]

The jacket is not to spec for marine use by today's standards plus it's a very fine strand and succeptable to breakage from corrosion.

Other than that it's an insurance issue.

Really...
There are tons of boats from all the best builders with welding cable still in great shape. How is it a insurance issue?
Maybe because the self serving people in ABYC who are in the marine business who make their living selling the equipment they tell you you need to have to be in compliance?

I beg to differ on the thin strands. They are more flexable and last longer.

In 40 years I have never seen a fire caused by welding cable.

That said, if I replace a cable it is with tinned wire and the proper color. But there is no reason to remove perfectly good cable.

 

[captddis]

Welding cable is usually not tinned and the jacket supposedly is not as oil resistant as marine cable. That being said, others here have stated that Hatteras did use welding cable on their early builds. My boat had welding cable for the batteries, but that was probably installed during the repower. No idea what was there originally.

Hatteras used welding cable into the late 80's.
Bertram used it as did Chris Craft, Viking,Ocean, Egg Harbor...............
I bet 98% of the owners on the forum have welding cable in their boats.

 

[Milacron]

What you are looking at in that photo are relatively short runs of cable enclosed and protected in the battery bank switch box. The longer run of positive cable actually has two insulation jackets...
The outer jacket all red in color with some air gap between jackets.