Beach party in Bimini Bahamas 2of2

[MASTERPLAN MIAMI]

Staying in Bimini was a blast. We ended up relaxing with some friends and ended up at a beach party. The Hatteras doesn't seem great for making this crossing though. The trip home was nice and pretty smooth overall but the first trip over and back was crappy. This girl rolls like there's no coming back. Wendy was hurling for 7 hrs. Tanks were dirty so one engine quit on us about 20 miles out. The second time was better but still not great. Not sure we'll be going back across with MASTERPLAN. Maybe another boat. Time to go shopping.

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[Dan Mapes]

At least Bimini faired well enough (I Guess). Zoom in to see how the Abacos did.

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[johnjen50]

Were you planing or moving at Hull speed. If can get her to 14-15knts she won’t roll. But yes, with a beam sea no stabs and hull speed her roll is impressive!

 

[MASTERPLAN MIAMI]

Were you planing or moving at Hull speed. If can get her to 14-15knts she won’t roll. But yes, with a beam sea no stabs and hull speed her roll is impressive!

15 Knts is pretty much full speed. I don't push her that hard for that long.

 

[Pascal]

Any unstabilized MY is going to roll with beam seas, or quartering seas. not much you can do about it. What was the wind on the trip over? These Hatteras hulls will Cut thru heads seas very well but you still have to pick the day to cross. Anything north of due east and over 15 is pretty much no go for me, even in bigger boats. Wind against current just results in short tall waves once you hit the stream

Went back to the Abacos with another boat full of supplies last week and the ride from Miami to West End wasn’t fun even in a stabilized 84 footer thanks to 15 kts NE plus some swells.

Get those tanks polished. I used Riverside Fuel to polish my tanks during the repower. Hadn’t been done in 20+ years and the boat had sat with old fuel for 5 years.

As to BIM... it s not worth going anymore. Over crowded, dirty, bulldozed and concreted over. That beach you show in the video with hundred of people used to be pristine and lined with pines. Now, you may as well just go to SoBe or Crandon. Yuck.

And it s going to get worst with Virgin Cruises soon bringing their cattle ships on that Resort World Pier and building a beach club...

 

[MASTERPLAN MIAMI]

Any unstabilized MY is going to roll with beam seas, or quartering seas. not much you can do about it. What was the wind on the trip over? These Hatteras hulls will Cut thru heads seas very well but you still have to pick the day to cross. Anything north of due east and over 15 is pretty much no go for me, even in bigger boats. Wind against current just results in short tall waves once you hit the stream

Went back to the Abacos with another boat full of supplies last week and the ride from Miami to West End wasn’t fun even in a stabilized 84 footer thanks to 15 kts NE plus some swells.

Get those tanks polished. I used Riverside Fuel to polish my tanks during the repower. Hadn’t been done in 20+ years and the boat had sat with old fuel for 5 years.

As to BIM... it s not worth going anymore. Over crowded, dirty, bulldozed and concreted over. That beach you show in the video with hundred of people used to be pristine and lined with pines. Now, you may as well just go to SoBe or Crandon. Yuck.

And it s going to get worst with Virgin Cruises soon bringing their cattle ships on that Resort World Pier and building a beach club...

Hey thanks for your comments. I agree 100%. It was rough going over. We did have the tanks polished before we went the second time but even in fairly smooth seas, the wifey is not a happy camper. I also agree about the decline in Bimini. Now that I've taken my wife twice, I think we're done with that. Next time we cross, it's for a long haul.

 

[Finalee]

Getting one boat to be everything is tough. If other than the rolling the boat is it, just get some stabalizers. Maybe next boat should be "Second draft".

 

[Pascal]

Try the Berry’s next time. It s anlittle further but the bank is usually smooth. Great Harbor day has a great marina and plenty to do with a true out island feel.

 

[MASTERPLAN MIAMI]

Thank you all for the comments and advise. This journey has just begun for us.

 

[Passages]

Try the Berry’s next time. It s anlittle further but the bank is usually smooth. Great Harbor day has a great marina and plenty to do with a true out island feel.

X2 on the Berry's. Spent 2 weeks exploring with Family.

We did 1 overnight at Bimini after checking in. Next morning took the north route to Great Harbour Cay. Arrived on a Friday and that evening their was a cool little festival at the marina with locals. Locals are very friendly and happy to engage. Rented a golf cart to visit some awesome beaches which we had to ourselves.

Then anchored at Soldiers Cay, Devils Cay , explored the Blue Hole at Hoffmans (bucket list item for everyone) . Took dingy over to Great Galding Cay - the closest thing to Gilligans Island I've ever seen. Finally spent 2 days at Chub Cay just to empty my wallet of any leftover vacation funds.

Yeah, You gotta do the Berry's.

 

[johnjen50]

Hmmmm. My yachtfish will do 14+ at 1950. Maybe you need a little tuning or bottom cleaning.......or less beer

 

[Pascal]

A 58 YF should just get on plane and cruise around 15/16 although in swells it may be a bit underpowered. Are your trim tabs working? Clean bottom?

 

[MASTERPLAN MIAMI]

A 58 YF should just get on plane and cruise around 15/16 although in swells it may be a bit underpowered. Are your trim tabs working? Clean bottom?

Umm. I don't like to contradict anyone who might know better than me but.....

My factory RPM's are 2200 as far as I know. I try not to run over 1700 for long runs. I've gotten up to 20 MPH top speed after bottom cleaning, balanced shafts and props and new bearings and packing glands. Before all that, my top speed was 14 MPH.

Secondly, I've never heard of a 58 ft yacht fish plaining as it has a semi-plaining/displacement hull. I could be wrong and would love to hear more.

 

[johnjen50]

My yachtfish planes at 14knts. My WOT is 2350, as is yours if you have the 8v71ti’s. I had her up over 18 knots at WOT.

 

[johnjen50]

And at 1950 these engines will run all day long and love it. That’s about 82% of top end. And these boats definitely plane. You can feel it come up on mine right around 14knts.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Umm. I don't like to contradict anyone who might know better than me but.....

My factory RPM's are 2200 as far as I know. I try not to run over 1700 for long runs. I've gotten up to 20 MPH top speed after bottom cleaning, balanced shafts and props and new bearings and packing glands. Before all that, my top speed was 14 MPH.

Secondly, I've never heard of a 58 ft yacht fish plaining as it has a semi-plaining/displacement hull. I could be wrong and would love to hear more.

The boat was designed to plane. A semi-displacement hull will plane with enough power. Most marinized Detroits have a max WOT of 2500rpm no load(plate on the engine will tell you), and 2350rpm loaded. If you can't make 2350, you have engine or prop issues. And Detroits love to run. Run them up. 2150 rpm all day is fine. And that should get you 16-17kts, mine does. (btw, mph is for land vehicles)

 

[tomrealest]

My 1978 58YF planes between 14 & 15 knots.

Definitely do Great Harbour Cay for the old Bahama island feel. The Exumas are the greatest.

I have stabilizers and will not leave Florida with strong wind from the northeast. Wait for a nicer day.

 

[MASTERPLAN MIAMI]

The boat was designed to plane. A semi-displacement hull will plane with enough power. Most marinized Detroits have a max WOT of 2500rpm no load(plate on the engine will tell you), and 2350rpm loaded. If you can't make 2350, you have engine or prop issues. And Detroits love to run. Run them up. 2150 rpm all day is fine. And that should get you 16-17kts, mine does. (btw, mph is for land vehicles)

Thank you. My old lady won't do that right now. Time to get the mech a nick out here. Thanks again.

 

[Pascal]

You need to turn rated rpm which in your case is 2300 to 2350. If you only turn 2200 you re overloading the engines.

These boats do get on plane but only at cruise RPM, probably 1900, and need clean running gear and bottom. You need monthly cleaning by a diver.

Also your trim tabs need to work. Make sure they do. The stock trim tabs are marginal so full down is a must.

 

[Pascal]

X2 on the Berry's. Spent 2 weeks exploring with Family.

We did 1 overnight at Bimini after checking in. Next morning took the north route to Great Harbour Cay. Arrived on a Friday and that evening their was a cool little festival at the marina with locals. Locals are very friendly and happy to engage. Rented a golf cart to visit some awesome beaches which we had to ourselves.

Then anchored at Soldiers Cay, Devils Cay , explored the Blue Hole at Hoffmans (bucket list item for everyone) . Took dingy over to Great Galding Cay - the closest thing to Gilligans Island I've ever seen. Finally spent 2 days at Chub Cay just to empty my wallet of any leftover vacation funds.

Yeah, You gotta do the Berry's.

The blue hole at Hoffman is a must visit

Chubb Cay? Yuck... been there once and that was enough. If we need to stop in the area we anchor on the other side off Bird. Bird has an abandoned house at the north end which is fun to visit, still plenty of 60s stuff in there, like a time capsule