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anyone know this 41'?

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Not familiar with that one, but it sure does make me appreciate mine that much more. Had a good day on mine with the first cruise of the year.
 
On the listing it is stated...'great liveaboard'. Does as 41' really make for good liveaboard accomodations? I can see perhaps an extended cruise life...but a liveaboard?
 
We lived aboard our 41 for several years after we first got married. After living in houses and collecting stuff, tools, and pets for 30 years I'm not sure we could now live aboard a 141 footer.
 
I always found "great liveaboard" to mean "she's a slip queen and doesn't run or run well; hasn't left the slip in years."
 
Angela, I'm looking for a great HATT liveaboard, not to be a dock queen but to actually liveaboard, be free of land, keeping living expenses in line (ie not having two things to keep up with) and able to pull away from the dock on a whim and cruise during weekends, holidays and days off.
I know everyone has different definitions but that's mine and I need to do it with my children (4) and grandchildren (2 at the moment) but not necessarily all at the same time. If it was to be dock queen, I'd consider a seaway or something like it; but I love the characteristics of an older HATT, the sea worthiness, the build, and ability of going out in almost any condition. I only want to buy once, no mistakes, and have it last the rest of my lifetime. AND, if I win the lottery, I don't want to have my cruising limited ;) .
PS: would a good quality part # 36 long be happy on anything other than a HATT?

And, DCMY, thanks for your opinion. I too think a 41' is to small for a former house owner, tools and self efficienty.
 
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Don't know her. The list of work done is impressive. If in the market for one I would certainly look at it.
 
I have the same style Hatt. It looks like it has been maintained. I am not sure why there are no pic of the ER. Definitely not a liveaboard, but for the money, it is a good buy as long as the engines are in good shape.
 
Angela said:
I always found "great liveaboard" to mean "she's a slip queen and doesn't run or run well; hasn't left the slip in years."
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Not sure how you're coming up with that one Ang. Would you not describe your boat as a great liveaboard?

As for a 41DC serving as a liveaboard, there are several members of this forum living on much smaller boats. I've lived on mine for several months at at time and was very comfortable. It would be plenty big for a couple and maybe even a couple with a child.
 
It seems that liveaboards have a lot of AC problems.
 
Freeebird said:
Not sure how you're coming up with that one Ang. Would you not describe your boat as a great liveaboard?

As for a 41DC serving as a liveaboard, there are several members of this forum living on much smaller boats. I've lived on mine for several months at at time and was very comfortable. It would be plenty big for a couple and maybe even a couple with a child.
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No, I’m not saying that ALL boats stated to be “great liveaboard” are slip queens that don’t run. When I was boat shopping, every boat that was termed “great liveaboard” was something that usually meant it was best suited never to leave the slip because of abundant problems - different from “great cruising boat.” It’s just a marketing term. If I were selling a boat with blown or problematic engines, but working comfort features (such as running water, power and air conditioning), I’d call that a “great liveaboard” meaning, “so long as you don’t want to cruise the boat, it’s great!” LOL That’s all. Project boats are often termed “great liveaboard”, too. It’s just a term that alerts my radar. Many people read the term “great liveaboard” and then in their mind say to themselves, “oh, and doesn’t run, right?.” It’s not true for every boat described like that, but it does raise a buyer’s radar...maybe not yours...but it’s a fairly common interpretation that warrants further investigation.

I see the boat in the link has recent rebuilt engines, so I would guess that she’s in decent working order, but if you told me that the boat was a “great liveaboard” with not much more info, my initial impression would be that she didn’t run.

I lived aboard a 33' express cruiser for a couple of years - loved that boat!!
 
You certainly march to the beat of a different drummer there Ang. :D

Let's face it, most people who are looking at 40'+ boats think in terms of spending a lot of time on it. Some 40 footers are very livable, some are not. It would be rather silly to advertise a 40' express as a "great liveaboard" whether it ran or not. I hardly see such a description as a hint regarding the condition of the boat.

Maybe we should ask for Pascal's opinion based on your criteria. I've already given mine. :D
 
Don't know about the term livaboard meaning that they don't run or get used.
I think the term "floating cottage" best describes the unused liveaboards. We all see them, the boats with vegatable gardens, Corona umbrella's , palm trees and cumbersome ramps to board. Would take a day to disconnect from the dock.
The Cottage's are inhabited by dreamers who are always going to sail off into the sunset and drop anchor in Margaritaville.
Those are the boats to avoid. Pascoe even did a writeup on how he won't survey one due to the clutter.
 
I prefer "floating condo" myself. :D

Seriously, I've seen larger gas powered boats referred to as floating condo's. Saw an ad for a Sea Ray 440 with 7.4's that was advertised like that. "A little slow with gas engines, but makes a great floating condo". Maybe they were afraid to list it as a great liveaboard.
 
Can someone please pass the popcorn?
 
Freeebird said:
You certainly march to the beat of a different drummer there Ang. :D

Let's face it, most people who are looking at 40'+ boats think in terms of spending a lot of time on it. Some 40 footers are very livable, some are not. It would be rather silly to advertise a 40' express as a "great liveaboard" whether it ran or not. I hardly see such a description as a hint regarding the condition of the boat.

Maybe we should ask for Pascal's opinion based on your criteria. I've already given mine. :D
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What are you talking about? My point is that ads I've seen for boat where the term "would make a great liveaboard" was used in the description, it was usually for a boat that didn't run or run well, i.e. unreliable anywhere but in the slip. As great of a liveaboard as my 58 is, I'd never use those words in a a listing because they all too often mean something other than simply that to a lot of people who have been shopping for a while. And what 40' express are you talking about?
 
SportFishCruising said:
would a good quality part # 36 long be happy on anything other than a HATT?
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Part #36 Long has become very fond of Hatts. One day, she'll probably have one. Her favorite is Maynard's boat, Unity
 
Angela said:
Part #36 Long has become very fond of Hatts. One day, she'll probably have one. Her favorite is Maynard's boat, Unity
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Unity is nearly perfect as is.

Perhaps accessorizing with the optional Part #36 Long is all that's needed to complete the package.
 
saltshaker said:
Can someone please pass the popcorn?
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Help yourself
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Angela said:
What are you talking about? My point is that ads I've seen for boat where the term "would make a great liveaboard" was used in the description, it was usually for a boat that didn't run or run well, i.e. unreliable anywhere but in the slip. As great of a liveaboard as my 58 is, I'd never use those words in a a listing because they all too often mean something other than simply that to a lot of people who have been shopping for a while. And what 40' express are you talking about?
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Uh, a 40 express was mentioned as an example Ang.

What am I talking about? I'm talking about your assertion that mentioning a boat's potential as a liveaboard is an indication of its general unfitness for anything else. Just never heard that one before. As for you using "great liveaboard" in your listing, most people would realize a 58MY would be suitable for such a thing. ANY 58' motor yacht would be suitable for liveaboard (as long as all the systems work), but not all 41' motor yachts are. That's what I'm talking about.
 
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