Advice On a Dink

[Brian Degulis]

Hello All

I'm shopping for a dink I want a center console I was sure I would be buying a RIB. Then I came across a Triumph it's a solid Ropeylene hull looks like a rib but no pontoons. Does anyone know anything about them?

Also I'm trying to determine the capacity of my Marquip davit and I can't seem to find a website for them. Does anyone know it or know if they go by a different name

Thanks in advance

Brian

 

[Beckytek]

Try www.marquipt.com

 

[Nonchalant1]

Just a worthwhile note on dink brands and service....
I have a 1997 Nautica RIB 12 Deluxe. It has always porpoised at speed (Yamaha 40HP motor). At the boat show last week, I stopped by the Nautica showfloor and talked to a person there. She listened and ten showed me the new RIB 12 and asked me if my boat had the big metal "wedge" they now put on their RIBs to better angle the motors, and I said no. She handed me her card and said I should just call her this week so she could get me one. Turned out she was Debra Young, the president of Nautica International, Inc. I called her today and she had their parts people get one for me to pick up Monday at their factory....free!

Nice to have an American made product where a 10 year old boat gets that kind of service. Nice to have an American factory where the president makes a real effort to stay in touch with their customers and also knows the technical side of their product. If I need another dink, I'll want a Nautica.

Doug Shuman

 

[Diver Down]

Re your davit, I've been in e-mail contact with Marquipt (sales@marquipt.com) over the past few days trying to determine the capacity of my new (used) davit and when it was manufactured. I was told to look for a 4-digit number on the bottom of the davit. Apparently they can pull whatever info you're looking for with that number. Try to get the number before you e-mail them with questions.

 

[Brian Degulis]

That's good advice do you know where that# is located is it near the bottom of the davit itself or the support pipe?

 

[Diver Down]

I wish I knew the answer. I have not yet found this # on my davit and I suspect that it has been painted over. The tech guy I was in contact with said it was on the "bottom of the davit", which I guess eliminates the standpipe itself. If you find it first, please let me know where it's located.

 

[GeorgeJW]

I own a 12' Triumph SC, 2004, with 25 HP Yamaha. It is a bullet proof boat, but heavy! Boat with motor, equipment is around 720#s. I have used it as a dink for the last two years on my 43 DCMY and loved it but....it is just too big and too heavy for how I have my 43 rigged. I have a stern davit, Ross-Kelly 1000# capacity...handles the up-down great but I still end up with about 800# hanging off the stern. In addition, the motor on the Triumph is not recessed so add another two feet on the LOA so I had problems with my rookie maneuverings and pilings at time. With all this in mind, I would absolutely pick the Triumph again due to its durability (can’t sink it, hurt it etc) IF I had a davit set up to mount mid-ships.


Boat rides very dry, and planes with 5 people on board (not legal) with the 25 HP....about 22 MPH. With only two folks on board it tops out at 27. We have used it to tow tubes and skiers with no problem. I used it as a fishing boat on the Potomac as a stand-alone. However, we are preparing for the loop and purchased a used inflatable from one of our list members which should work better for my current set-up. The Triumph sits rather fore lonely in my drive way with my indecisiveness of whether to store or keep...I love the little boat. Hope this helps.


George

 

[Brian Degulis]

Hi George

That helps a lot I have been reading about problems with these boats sitting on chocks and saging have you experienced any of that? Did yours sit on the normall 2 chock configuration?

If you have an interest in selling yours shoot me a PM I've got a 61MY so there's plenty of room for it.

Thanks again
Brian

 

[SKYCHENEY]

I just ordered an Avon 310 Rib and 2-stroke Johnson 15 from Defender. I talked to Steve (the owner of Defender) personally and he made me a deal that I could not pass up. I looked at non-inflatables and they just weigh too much and don't have the carrying capacity of a boat with inflatable tubes. For instance, that Triumph 12 is rated for 3 persons and 576 lbs. The Avon 10 is rated for 4 persons and over 1100lbs. I was also concerned about weight. That is why I bought the 2 stroke motor. It was only 74lbs compared to about 120lbs for a 4 stroke. So, my whole rig should come in at under 250lbs and that should make it really easy to handle from up on the hardtop.

I realize that most of the larger tenders will ride better and be more comfortable than this little 10 footer, but size was a concern for me too since the PO put the davit in the wrong spot. Good luck on your search and let us know what you end up with and how you like it.

 

[Pascal]

i used my tender a lot this past week end since we anchored out instead of tying up to the bulkhead so that was a few trips to walk the dog, get some stuff, etc... and i came to realize how nice if is to have a large, stable, dry tender !

my homebuild prototype 14' hobie hull based tender is neither small or light for the 53 but it still takes me no time and effort to crane it on the top. Size is not issue for storage (unless some #$^&*($ mounted the crane in the wrong spot !) but it makes a big difference once you're using the tender. and even if you don't always carry 6 or 7 pax, it's nice to have the capacity.

it was actually funny to have both the tender and the hobie 16 tied to the hatt this week end... you could clearly see that the tender started it's life as a hobie !

 

[SeaSwick]

Not having or really needing a tender on my Hatt... let me throw my $0.02 in! (I do have a little pram nose dinghy, but the two have never met!!)

I'm not familier with the Triumph (type), but true inflatables are extremely "tender" under foot. Stepping in & out, especially an inexperienced guest, or a bit of inattention by the experienced & the inflatable shoots out from underfoot like a rug on ice!!

Plus rowing an inflatable in any type of moderate breeze is impossible (bring an anchor & a handheld radio).

Light weight, zero draw & moderate freeboard are not always a good combo. What is attractive with inflatables (as well as RIBs) are potentially serious safety drawbacks.

I'd lean towards a Trinka or Dyer Dow (type), the extra weight won't bother our big, heavy Hatts, just us mere mortals.

 

[Brian Degulis]

Hi

I took a ride this week to go look at a Triumph tender it was offered by a dealer in Lake Placid FL. The complete boat new with a 25HP Yamaha four stroke and a trailer was $7800. I went there with every intention of buying it. When I looked at it I was concerned about a few things first there was some abrasions on the bottom from being put on the trailer. The trailer was set up with long back to front paded suports aperently full suport is very important as these boats will distort in shape if chocked like a glass hull. I guess ropylene is softer than fiberglass and has to be treated diferently which is proubably what makes it tougher.

My bigest concern was the forward lifting eye it apeared to be screwed or bolted with 1/4" machine screws I've heard that ropelyne does not hold screws well. For a brand new 2006 boat it apeared to be stained in some areas and the finish is not hard and shiny like fiberglass I'm wondering if it might be a problem keeping it looking good.

I ended up passing on it I just didn't get a good feeling about it and didn't like the idea of having to build a new chocking system to properly suport it. In fairness everyone who responded to me that owned one was very happy with it. On some other sights there were some negative posts but they seemed pretty balanced by the positive posts.

An equal sized boat in a Caribe RIB is about $5000 more than the Triumph the Rib has the advantage of of more cushioned ride because of the inflatable tubes but all the disadvantages asociated with an inflatable boat. Anyway that's what I'm leaning toward and maybe I'm making a mistake I'm just not sure.

Brian

 

[Jaxfishgyd]

My Hatt came with a 13' Whaler and 30 hp motor that's kept on the hardtop and has an electric davit to raise/lower the boat. We use the Whaler all year round.
Yes it's heavy but can spend the day pulling the grandkids on the innertube or go fishing.
Now getting it up on top if there is good size waves will make it "interesting" to say the least....
You can see a picture of it on top at my website...

 

[thoward]

I am sure there is a simple remedy for the following issue but I have not found it. How do you get from the dink to the Hatt before you haul it in? I am getting too old to be climbing 6' up the side of the boat.

 

[Pascal]

not sure what you mean ? i get off the tender and onto the swim platform, hook up the cable there, along the platform and then swing the crane around.

or... i tie the tender along side, near the stern. hook up the cable from the crane and step from the bow of the tneder (it helps to have a very stable dink) onto the platform.

i always anchor in sheltered spots, but if there was risk of rolling, i'd jsut tie a couple of fenders on the side of the dink. no big deal.

$7800 with a 25 ? is that new (both boat and engine ?) that cheap although it's only certified for 3 pobs.

 

[thoward]

Well you see the 60C has the davit on the bow and you have to pull the boat around to the cable to hook it up. Once you are hooked up you gotta get out and herein is the issue. My fat ars does not like to clipb up the side of the boat. I need a rope ladder maybe.

 

[luckydave215]

Tod, I had the same issue as you, and my solution is to temporarly tape down the safety clip on the davit cable hook. That way I can drag the Caribe forward with extra long mooring lines (good as tag lines when in the air also) to get it under the davit, "hook" the center ring of the dink's bridle from the deck, and start lifting. No climbing required.
Reverse the same procedure to launch.

 

[Brian Degulis]

Yes Pascal $7800 buys the boat with 25HP four stroke yamaha and trailer rigged and ready to go.

Brian

 

[DeeRow]

Well you see the 60C has the davit on the bow and you have to pull the boat around to the cable to hook it up. Once you are hooked up you gotta get out and herein is the issue. My fat ars does not like to clipb up the side of the boat. I need a rope ladder maybe.

I bought one of these I hook it on the midship cleat. It is still a bit of an effort to climb as it moves a lot, but it is a lot easier than trying to hook onto the lifting bar with a boat hook. The ladder stows easily in the dink.

Mark