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About to Join the Classic Hatteras Ranks with a Davit/crane Question

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Hatteras Folks and Gentlepersons all,

After an extended search and several misadventures and false starts, Admiral Sue and I are closing in on purchasing a 1972 Hatteras 53 MY. We are scheduled for a Survey/Sea Trial in early October and closing around the middle of the month.

The boat is on Yachtworld and is in Fort Lauderdale listed by Peck Yachts if you would like a peek. Yes, it really is a ’72 vice the listed ’75 vintage. We're going for that serious classic thing. The boat was donated to a foundation and hence the sale process is a tad unusual in that it’s really a lease/purchase deal. So far, it’s going well. As per normal, I’m working and researching a huge number of issues and projects to make her ready to get back to our winter base in the St. Augustine/Jacksonville area. We plan to use her to spend summers in Southern New England, probably based out of Newport. Plus a bit of island time at some point.

Before getting to a bit more about the boat and a question, let me compliment the forum. I have been a member for 2-3 years and have used this as a highly valued resource during our search. Until buying a boat I have read and learned without comment. My respects to you all. A wonderful and exceptional combination of humor and expertise.

The boat seems overall to be in excellent shape – subject to survey/sea trial/engine survey surprises. PO clearly spent some serious money. As always, it’s never quite what or how you would have preferred some things done. A few examples – washer and dryer were removed, mast or radar arch was removed, and the boat deck crane was removed and boat deck converted to a huge extended aft seating area for the fly bridge.

Some of the stuff clearly can wait, but an initial priority will be converting the aft portion of the fly bridge back to a boat deck and getting a crane for it so a tender can travel home with us. The original metal crane support in the aft deck is still there and the fly bridge deck penetration has a plate and cover blanking it off. A visit to Sailorman – the local Lauderdale marine consignment store – shows there are several used Marquipt davits available in various models – some manual and some hydraulic – I’m thinking manual. Most do not have a standpipe, although a few do have them. Those with standpipes seem to all be in two pieces and look to be cut in the middle.

Here’s the questions. I can’t see how you could use a two-piece standpipe without welding or likely sleeving and then welding it together. Assuming the two pieces would be long enough… Also, the Marquipt site indicates each standpipe is a custom build so that the top plate is properly sized and angled for a particular boat. Right? So a used one may well need the top plate modified as well as welding together.

So… even if I could find a used Marquipt davit, do I likely really need Marquipt to build a new
custom standpipe? Apparently Marquipt does their own installations in the Lauderdale area and don’t have dealers. Do we just bite the bullet and have Marquipt do the whole job with new equipment? Guessing 10-15 Boat Units for a 1000 lb davit. I'm doubting they want to build and install a new standpipe and then install a used davit/crane on it... even if it is one of theirs.

Any alternatives/recommended yards or dealers/options and wise advice/good (or slightly bad) humor is
most appreciated.

For whatever it may, or may not, be worth, my background is sailing and I have had various sailboats pretty much all my life plus 28 years as an officer in the Navy. Yes, I am indeed well aware that Naval Officers typically top the list of most useless things on a boat…A proud tradition I strive to maintain.

All the best,

Phil
 
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Phil that's awesome on your purchase. I too bought a 53 recently. And yes the forum is the best out there. I have learned so much from the ppl here. I would think you should be able to find a metal fab shop that can take care of what you need. Just be sure they use marine grade materials. It maybe faster and cheaper but probably will require more hands on for you. Take the time and go through all the systems before moving the boat home, I spent three weeks on mine before the journey home and learned so much and felt safer too. Good luck. Pete
 
Welcome aboard Phil.... It's always good to have new members to help keep this forum interesting. Congratulations and thank you for all (28 yrs) of your service to our country in the USN. I am a Navy veteran as well, but only served 6 years (55-61). At that time it seemed that unless you were an Annapolis Grad, your prospects for advancement were kind of limited.

There are many 53's owned by active members of this forum and I'm sure you can get plenty of help with just about any issue regarding yours. I believe the 53's were the most successful models ever built by Hatteras and for good reason.

Please keep us posted and happy cruising.......

Walt
 
Welcome, I second the comment about the great info you get on this forum. We just purchased a 53 motoryacht about 8 months ago and are going through a complete rehab. My wife liked a lot of the decorating ideas that the boat you bought has. We just posted pictures in our gallery of our rehab projects. We love the boat and use it year round here in southern cal. John
 
Welcome aboard. I too have a 53' and love her. If I can help answer any questions please reach out. Best of luck.
 
Welcome! I have been on board that boat after the current or last owner bought her in Waukegan, IL. He's actually a member here. I bought the dinghy that was on the top of that boat (1999 Zodiac Yachtline 380DL) and the current davit on our 56 Hatteras is off that boat (Marquipt 800 with hydraulic boom and reel). From what I know that boat spent at least 25 years on Lake Michigan and the yard that performed the work is excellent. I believe she was painted around 2010 or 2011.
 
Thanks to all for your kind comments and words of welcome.

It is indeed a very small (Hatteras) world and Sue and I are glad to learn more of the boat's history plus where the previous tender and crane have established new residences. Glad to hear they stayed in the family, so to speak.

Currently scheduled for Survey/Sea Trial/Engine Survey on 3 October with the closing (hopefully) on 13 October -- which just happens to be the Navy Birthday.

We will keep you posted on our progress and what we learn.

Thanks again to all.

Phil
 
Call UMT in Ft Lauderdale at 954-316-0327. I had an angled davit when I bought the boat in 2002 that was rated at 800 lbs. I wanted a rib with a 60 hp and needed a bigger davit. I was able to buy a used one from UMT at a reasonable price. It was rated at 1200 pounds. They painted it to match my boat. The old support pipe was not big enough so they installed another one. They fabricated the piece for the curved roof. and installed everything. I sold the old one to a Forum member. You could also try Sailorman's in Ft Lauderdale for a used davit. A few years after I had the davit installed, I got concerned that maybe there was too much weigh on the roof with the dinghyy I oculght. I added two upports from the rear deckPA281629.webpPA281630.webp
 
Many thanks for the information and pictures Tom. Your boat and the whole installation looks GREAT. I will be in Lauderdale next week for the Survey and Sea Trial and will stay an extra day or two researching projects, dealers, and options. I will go visit UMT and hope they can work similar magic for me.

All the best and thanks again,
Phil
 
Survey Surprise

Thanks to all of you for your kind words of advice and welcome. I am very sorry to report that there was a major surprise from the survey of this boat and that my wife and I will not be leasing/purchasing it. Please pm me if you need details.

Hopefully we will find another boat soon to fully join this community. Again, our thanks and regards to all.

Phil
 
Better to find out before you purchase. Lucky it was caught.
 
OBDS,

Congrats on your "new" hat. I picked up a 1984 52C out of Ft. Lauderdale about 8 years ago through a charity donation "Save our Waters Foundation". All was well until the time for them to sign over ownership to me several years later and no one there knew what hey were doing! In the end it all worked out OK but be careful!
 

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