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170 HP Hatteras 38 Convertible

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Jammin'

Jammin'

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43' DOUBLE CABIN (1970 - 1984)
My first concern would be safety after the huge weight reduction with the new Deere engines. You probably can go long distances assuming the boat didn't roll over.
 
The didn't miss a thing. Anything that could be downgraded, done half assed or with cheap crap was done. Hatteras built sailboats but not like that. I would run. Far, Fast and for a long time.

Just a few wonderful observations.

1) Most of the work was neat but poorly marked and or executed.

2) Most of the materials were low end or worse. The chargers are a perfect example of a lower priced solution with little if any thought for longevity.

3) The tank in the cockpit for any fuel would be illegal if not vented above its "full level" overboard and safely away from anything that could create a spark.

Id guess a survey would show it hard if not impossible to insure.
 
Its just not a good idea. Years ago I ran a 34C with tiny Diesels from Boca Grand up to St Pete for a refit. Well that translates to plenty of hours run time to get a feel for it, especially because I own a 34C.

It ran like a boat with fouled running gear. Forget that it would not plane. At lower speeds it could operate at it was unresponsive and just plain unpleasant to run. When my bottom and gear has some growth starting the boat runs like dog crap. This will likely be the same.

Better off with a nice trawler designed to run at these speeds. Plus they have sweet interiors most of the time.
 
I agree. I think they have ruined this boat. Only buy this boat if you know someone even stupider than you who will buy it from you once you realize what a mistake you've made. I would not have it if they paid me the asking price to take it from them.
 
For their asking price, you could find a decent little trawler which really IS a trawler, not a ruined Hatteras.
 
jim rosenthal said:
For their asking price, you could find a decent little trawler which really IS a trawler, not a ruined Hatteras.
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Yup. Especially because at the lower speeds the trawler will be a much better ride.
 
Repowering with smaller engines doesn't t make any sense even financially as the price diffeeence on the engines and gears is just a small portion of the overall project. I went thru the numbers before repowering my 53 and the cost difference was about &20k or less than 10% of the whole project

As to the quality of the work and whether it will pass survey, let s not forget this is an early boat. Frankly almost anything is better than what Hatteras did back the early 70s. I found blobs of sealant up to 1 1/2" thick to seal spaces between walls and the underside of the salon floor... I m still pulling factory original wiring and wondering why the boat didn't go up in flame over the years.

As I am installing the new water heater this morning I pulled the wiring harness from the stbd side of the genny room along the hull. Check out the factory splices... pieces of copper tube, sliced lengthwise, crimped and wrapped in electrical tape... hidden splices everywhere buried deep in the harness
 

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When diesel hits $5 per gallon again this will look different.
 
Since we are now exporting oil, I doubt we ll see $5 a gal. but nothing prevents higher HP boats from
Going slow and enjoying good fuel economy
 
Very helpful insights. I look at the boat and the workmanship looks very tidy, everything looks clean and well kept, if a little spartan, and it seems like it would be economical to run and maintain. Good to get "the rest of the story", as Paul Harvey would say.
 
I have to ask.

When all the responders here tell you dont even consider the boat you reply with it looks well executed but spartan. You do not take the advife from the people you asked but try to roll the responses tonwhat you want to hear.so I have to ask.


Why did you even post this question if you wont listen to the advice you get?
 
Boatsb said:
I have to ask.

When all the responders here tell you dont even consider the boat you reply with it looks well executed but spartan. You do not take the advife from the people you asked but try to roll the responses tonwhat you want to hear.so I have to ask.


Why did you even post this question if you wont listen to the advice you get?
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Interesting interpretation of what I said. That is what I thought of the boat before I asked and took the advice that you offered. Thank you. I simply was pointing out how mistaken I could be.
 
I'm sorry if I didnt understand your last post was from before. We gets lot of people wanting to hear what they want to hear and not reality. That boat needs to be gutted and completly refit.
 
I was a little alarmed at how wrong my perception of a boat could be. Very educational. Given that, perhaps it would be better to start with the intended use and budget and get advice on which boat would fit the bill. It's not even clear in my mind that I can actually afford a Hatteras, irregardless of the purchase price. My nightmare scenario would be to stretch to buy a boat that ends up needing a $40,000 engine rebuild, or two!
 
Finalee said:
When diesel hits $5 per gallon again this will look different.
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Pascal said:
Since we are now exporting oil, I doubt we ll see $5 a gal. but nothing prevents higher HP boats from
Going slow and enjoying good fuel economy
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I have a boat that tops out at about 30knots, cruises at 18knots right around 1nmpg (with data I have) and probably will get the same 3nmpg at 7-9knots that this turd gets. Why ruin a boat with little engines?
 
Jammin' said:
I was a little alarmed at how wrong my perception of a boat could be. Very educational. Given that, perhaps it would be better to start with the intended use and budget and get advice on which boat would fit the bill. It's not even clear in my mind that I can actually afford a Hatteras, irregardless of the purchase price. My nightmare scenario would be to stretch to buy a boat that ends up needing a $40,000 engine rebuild, or two!
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We purchased a 1969 45c last spring 8-71 mains with 500 hours on them the transmissions were rebuilt at the same time. We have put almost 200 hours on her since purchase most of those hours at 8 knots. We are burning 6 gallons an hour at that speed and leaking one gallon of oil. The boat is in pretty good shape all things considered. We just spent a week on the hook and all systems worked as advertised. We spent $25,000 to buy her and spent about $5,000 more on things to make her more comfortable on anchorage. There are some really good deals on these older boats if you look around.
 
Nice to hear that. The original 45s are nice boats- dated, but still very functional. And I'll bet you don't have boat payments, do you...
 
jim rosenthal said:
Nice to hear that. The original 45s are nice boats- dated, but still very functional. And I'll bet you don't have boat payments, do you...
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You are correct, but as we all know it’s still not a cheap proposition.
 
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