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Thread: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
"DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ OR HEAR AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE" - BEN FRANKLIN
Endless Summer
1967 50c 12/71n DDA 525hp
ex Miss Betsy
owners:
Howard P. Miller 1967-1974
Richard F Hull 1974-1976
Robert J. & R.Scott Smith 1976-present
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
I have no personal experience with Tollys but I always kind of laugh when I hear people saying Hatteras have bottom that thick, showing like an inch with their fingers.
When we puller the old Vospers and installed the new Tracs a pulled of years ago, I got a good look at the hull laminate. Yes it is strong and thick and solid glass but it’s not very thick.
With the new stabs being much larger I added about 3/8” of additional glass outside the stringers over the length of the ERs and coming up a couple of inches up the hull side and stringer
A lot of the weight comes from the interior with many areas made of 1” thick plywood...Pascal
Miami, FL
1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
2007 Sandbarhopper 13
12' Westphal Cat boat
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09-14-2021 07:20 AM #43Senior Member
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
I grew up 30 minutes from the Tolly factory. In no way were these poorly made. Designed for NW waters, which can be absolutely awful. Google Columbia River bar or Straits for enjoyment. "Tolly" as he was known took great pride in their work. Starting out with wood, they switched over to fiber just about the same time as everyone else. I was lucky enough to see him in Olympia back when they had the boat festival and other activities. Pretty sure he lived to 100.
Anyway, if you had to pick two top mfgs out of the West Coast, Uniflite and Tollycraft will always be my list. Fantastic boats BUT like other mfgs, they had some troubles along the way. Google Uniflite blistering for great reads.
Try to find one before the late 80s. Yes, the interior will be less refined but I'd argue a better quality boat. Tolly sold in '87 or so and then came back to save from ruin. The owners were stripping any chance of continued success. Greed and too many investors can do that. By '96 it was all over.
I have ridden aboard the 26, 30, 37, 48 CPMY, and a 61'. Been on many others. The only one I noticed any real issues was the 37. Fuel tanks prone to leaks. We all smelled like gas after that ride. But again, not necessarily a structural defect.
We were once caught in massive swells out on the bar in Grays Harbor. That old boat never missed a beat. Just shook it off and kept moving.
The 61' is basically the 65' minus cockpit extension. I LOVE THAT BOAT. Fantastic engine room access and excellent visibility from just about everywhere. These were planing hulls. A few of the last 65' could cruise at 20.
The 57', from what I learned, had planing issues. Something about the hull design. Ass squat. Still a great layout with sexy lines.
The last 65' i was on in 2015 had soft core around deck fittings. Typical stuff found on any old boat. They wanted 459k. Resale value has always been solid.
To summarize, not poor quality at all. Yes, they stuffed gassers in many models too big and heavy. Some designs were ugly. The 61 and 65 were amazing. A few had odd powerplants. Felt like ships though. Can't go wrong. Makes me nostalgic for the old days of salty builders and awesome stories.
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
IDK I’ll take a boat built by Carolina rednecks over PNW hipsters and hippies. Just saying
"DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ OR HEAR AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE" - BEN FRANKLIN
Endless Summer
1967 50c 12/71n DDA 525hp
ex Miss Betsy
owners:
Howard P. Miller 1967-1974
Richard F Hull 1974-1976
Robert J. & R.Scott Smith 1976-present
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09-14-2021 10:06 AM #45
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
Interesting story with several routes..
Hatteras GT63 Post One Crosses the Atlantic (2019) - Repurposed Video
https://youtu.be/UBTKSvJrqWITy Lewis
In Decent Seas
1970 Chris Craft Commander 55
HIN: FAA-55-0001 DD 8V-71 NA
Kent Island, MD
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09-14-2021 11:12 AM #46
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
Eric
1972 Uniflite Salty Dog "Sharon Jean"
https://72saltydog.shutterfly.com/
Preceded by a 1967 Hatteras 34C
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
Isn’t a houseboat really the first RPH anyway?
"DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ OR HEAR AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE" - BEN FRANKLIN
Endless Summer
1967 50c 12/71n DDA 525hp
ex Miss Betsy
owners:
Howard P. Miller 1967-1974
Richard F Hull 1974-1976
Robert J. & R.Scott Smith 1976-present
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
Soft core around deck fittings sounds like a design problem, not a "normal deficiency". Hatteras didn't put deck fittings where there was coring. They all reside on the gunnel where there is no coring.
Sky Cheney
1985 53EDMY, Hull #CN759, "Rebecca"
ELYC on White Lake--Montague, MI
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09-14-2021 05:58 PM #49Senior Member
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Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
Randy Register - Kingston, TN
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1965 41DC #93