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  1. #1

    Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    So, its 11:40 on Wed evening and here is the NOAA forecast for Eastern Long Island Sound:

    ANZ330-302100-
    Long Island Sound East of New Haven CT/Port Jefferson NY-
    600 AM EDT Tue Mar 30 2021



    TODAY
    E winds around 5 kt, becoming S late this morning and
    afternoon. Seas 1 ft or less.

    TONIGHT
    S winds around 10 kt. Seas 1 to 2 ft.

    WED
    S winds 10 to 15 kt with gusts up to 20 kt. Seas 2 to
    3 ft. Chance of showers in the morning, then chance of rain in
    the afternoon.

    WED NIGHT
    S winds 10 to 15 kt with gusts up to 25 kt. Seas
    2 to 4 ft. Rain. Vsby 1 to 3 nm.

    THU
    W winds 10 to 15 kt with gusts up to 25 kt. Seas 3 to
    5 ft. Showers.
    Everyone should believe in something - I believe I will go fishing - Henry David Thoreau

  2. #2

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Not sure if the intention is to discuss weather from late March, but I usually reference prog charts on the aviation side https://aviationweather.gov/progchart/sfc for reference on frontal activity.
    Perhaps one way to get that forecast would be to be east of a low pressure system moving N to the West of you, with a heavier pressure gradient on the right side. Oscarvan or other pilots could comment further.
    Mal
    Miss Molly
    '85 53ED #750

  3. #3

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinacoast View Post
    Not sure if the intention is to discuss weather from late March, but I usually reference prog charts on the aviation side https://aviationweather.gov/progchart/sfc for reference on frontal activity.
    Perhaps one way to get that forecast would be to be east of a low pressure system moving N to the West of you, with a heavier pressure gradient on the right side. Oscarvan or other pilots could comment further.
    Probably cause he got it in May
    "DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ OR HEAR AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE" - BEN FRANKLIN




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    1967 50c 12/71n DDA 525hp
    ex Miss Betsy
    owners:
    Howard P. Miller 1967-1974
    Richard F Hull 1974-1976
    Robert J. & R.Scott Smith 1976-present

  4. #4

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinacoast View Post
    Not sure if the intention is to discuss weather from late March, but I usually reference prog charts on the aviation side https://aviationweather.gov/progchart/sfc for reference on frontal activity.
    Perhaps one way to get that forecast would be to be east of a low pressure system moving N to the West of you, with a heavier pressure gradient on the right side. Oscarvan or other pilots could comment further.
    After decades of looking at these charts I still only understand the basics I learned from Don Weaver in Meteorology 101 in 1983 about the behavior of a warm/cold or occluded front with nothing else around it. When there's lows and highs swirling around each other it gets complicated.

    The science however has gotten much better and the forecasters, together with more and more powerful computers, do a pretty decent job these days. So my "Storm Radar" app is it. Unless I go on bigger water which I rarely do anymore and then I go to the marine forecasts.
    1978 53' Motor Yacht "LADY KAY V"
    Hull number 524
    Chesapeake Bay

  5. #5

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Weather is dynamic and ever changing. Sometimes it's a hard show to follow.
    I have been using products from NWS/NOAA for a long time now.
    Their forecast and discussions come real close.
    Years ago, spent a lot of time buzzing in a 182 between Lantana and Marsh Harbor.
    We could always pick up the latest forecast and know what time of day (or not) to cross over.

    There are other days when you wonder what planet are they forecasting for.
    Then you look at the web pages and try to figure out your self.
    The crux of this thread.


    I still do better than the local TV people.

    My bug is with the TV / local weather people (Jax FL). It is so funny sometimes that they have the same resources that I have, yet try to re-invent the weather wheel and forecast themselves.
    Some have their own weather radar systems.
    They could improve their weather forecasting so much better just by looking out a window, but hey, they have commercials to sell and air time to fill.
    Further humorous, sitting in your car, at a red light, in the rain, on the radio; another breaking news update and weather report,,, No wrecks and clear skies... Right..
    Last edited by Captain Ralph; 05-06-2021 at 11:25 AM.

  6. #6

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Guys, that's all great. But I just want to read the damn NOAA forecast for today and get today's weather, not the weather from 2 days ago.
    Everyone should believe in something - I believe I will go fishing - Henry David Thoreau

  7. #7

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Ok... so the issue isn’t the forecast itself but the fact that the website served the old one. That s happened before. Which site did you use ?
    Pascal
    Miami, FL
    1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
    2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
    2007 Sandbarhopper 13
    12' Westphal Cat boat

  8. #8

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Bradley View Post
    Guys, that's all great. But I just want to read the damn NOAA forecast for today and get today's weather, not the weather from 2 days ago.
    Ah, I missed that. Browser restart? Clear cookies?
    1978 53' Motor Yacht "LADY KAY V"
    Hull number 524
    Chesapeake Bay

  9. #9

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Bradley View Post
    Guys, that's all great. But I just want to read the damn NOAA forecast for today and get today's weather, not the weather from 2 days ago.
    Absolutely. Nothing worse than trying to plan a trip, counting on the late marine forecast, and realizing it's the marine pastcast. really sucks when you're planning on leaving o'dark 30...

    you running the new boat up to westerly?

  10. #10

    Re: Can't depend on NOAA forecast

    That looks like a March 30 forecast.
    Here is the Greenport noaa link
    https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...2#.YJQ1ZlMpBSA
    Mal
    Miss Molly
    '85 53ED #750

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