My 34 with 270HP Cummins planes off very easily by progressively increasing throttle. No need for full throttle.
I had a 46 Bertram years ago with 435HP DD's that was a bit underpowered. The only way to plane off was full throttle until turbo's spooled up and then back off throttles.
Bought Dave's 46 HP with 650HP 8-92's. Clearly not underpowered (except by todays need for mega HP). Still needs a lot of throttle until turbos spool up, just like the 8-71's. Guessing this is normal due to size of turbos. Not getting boost until around 1500 RPM.
My question is what is the proper way to plane off. Should I just go full throttle and back off as soon as they make boost/power? Or is 3/4 throttle good and just wait a little longer? Just feels weird waiting to get over the hump.
Thanks for any responses.
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Planing off with Detroits
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Re: Planing off with Detroits
Are the trim tabs working?
Eric
41TC 1966 Hull #53 "Requisite"
Kent Island, MD/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
"Though she creaks - She holds"
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Re: Planing off with Detroits
In my case with 1271Ti’s, I work the throttles up gradually (+\- 5 to 8 secs) so as not to over-fuel. As the bow starts to come down, I engage the synchronizer and pull the master back to a mark I scribed on the control head that will produce 1,800 RPM when the power stabilizes. RPM reaches 2,050 or so before settling back and well on plane. Fuel flow then stabilizes at 26.5 to 28.5 GPH X 2 for 18.5 knots. Aslan always runs most efficiently with full tab. No doubt that gets her up faster.
Semper Siesta
Robert Clarkson
ASLAN, 1983 55C #343
Charleston, SC
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12-29-2019 10:52 AM #4
Re: Planing off with Detroits
The 34 is 19k lbs and a large flat stern so no comparison .
Detroits will take time to spool and make power I'm not sure the full throttle position while it's coming up will do any damage. It's not like their cold and their not making all that power as the crank up.Scott
41C117 "Hattatude"
Port Canaveral Florida.
Marine Electronics and Electrical Products Distributor.
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Tabs work fine. Other than leave in position for best cruise while in use I have never tried putting them down further to plane off. Sounds like maybe that is something I should be doing. Using the boat tomorrow. Will pay close attention to actual throttle positions as I run her up. Maybe I am babying it too much and not giving enough initial throttle. Not smoking or any other issues. Probably just me.
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Re: Planing off with Detroits
On most boats you need full tabs down to get on plane quicker. Then once there gradually retract to reduce drag and increase speed until speed peaks
From hull speed I always increase power gradually about 100 rpm every 5 seconds till whatever RPM it takes to get the boat up on plane and to the target speed. Less stress on the drivetrain, no cavitation. If the boat is underpowered you may need to push the throttles further and then back offPascal
Miami, FL
1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
2007 Sandbarhopper 13
12' Westphal Cat boat
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Re: Planing off with Detroits
I am used to the 34 which needs zero tab to plane off or run at best speed. The only tine I ever use tabs on the 34 is to level out or get bow down along with slowing down for very choppy water. Will try tabs down tomorrow.
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12-29-2019 09:19 PM #8Registered Member
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Re: Planing off with Detroits
On my 46 with 871 TI's I gradually increase power till I get to 1950 or so and engage synchronizer and then pull back a little to my cruise rpm. I always use full tabs until on plane and set at proper rpm.
Jason
Orange Beach, AL
1984 46C
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Re: Planing off with Detroits
Don't be afraid to go to WOT. These engines were designed to do that. But, as stated, don't horse them up there too quickly.
Sky Cheney
1985 53EDMY, Hull #CN759, "Rebecca"
ELYC on White Lake--Montague, MI
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So with tabs down and synchronizer on I slowly and progressively applied throttle just enough that slave was not lagging the lead. At about 13 smph both turbos kicked in closer than I was ever able to get them to. Planed off effortlessly other that short turbo lag 1400 just under 1500 RPM. Worked great. Still disengage synchronizer to drop off plane.
Yes, I know I am overthinking some of this but for me better to underthink and screw up.
Thanks for all suggestions.