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  1. #1

    What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    I am beginning to tackle the job of replacing the headliner. I intend to use removable panels that are covered in a thin foam-backed vinyl. While I’m in there, I want to start replacing the overhead lighting fixtures, and I’d like to go with recessed dimmable LED lights. There isn’t a lot of room (though I don’t know how much precisely because I haven’t started pulling it all down yet; perhaps Pascal can weigh in) between backside of the headliner and ceiling structure.

    For those of you who have already updated your lighting like this, what lighting fixtures are you using, what diameter are they, and how far apart are they spaced to give you plenty of lighting in a large room such as the salon and master stateroom?

    I am first going to practice my headliner skills on the crew head, but the pilothouse is next and that is where I will tackle the first replacement of the old square Hatteras ceiling fixtures. Thanks for your input.
    Ang
    1980 58MY "Sanctuary"
    www.sanctuarycharteryacht.com

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    Good afternoon . I just finished retro-fitting new LED lights in the salon of my 52C . My headliner was fairly new and I didn't want to fool with it so I searched for some lights that I could use to replace the original incandescents . I happened upon a company called AspectLED and they make their lights in many designs that include 12 volt , 24 volt and 120volt , all that look exactly the same , are dimmable and very reasonably priced. You can view them here at this link :http://aspectled.com/collections/led...re-rectangular
    They are only about 1 3/4" high and so fit into many applications . Very nicely made and the company was a pleasure to deal with . They are also direction and can be aimed to light wall art , tables etc .

  3. #3

    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    I'd highly recommend calling these folks and discussing your needs. They know these boats and quality is high to go along with the service. I used their bulbs to replace some halogens I had.
    I have seen a few boats with Marinebeam fixtures and they look great.
    https://store.marinebeam.com/led-cab...eatured&page=2

    Our fixtures were about 3" with a about a 2" hole. The MSR had the kind that adjustably tilt which was kind of nice.

    As for layout, on our 56my we found 6 in the salon (which is a little bigger than a 58 galley up) and two above the helm worked great, IMO. In the MSR 4 did the job fine, plus the reading lamps and a separately switched light over the door.
    George
    Former Owner: "Incentive" 1981 56MY
    2007-2014

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    I ve upgraded the saloon galley and aft deck on charmer using Lumitec Mirage series. I really like them. That s also what I put on Steve s Marquis, remember ? A little pricey but they only use two wires and ramp up when you turn them off. You just flick off/on at the intensity you need. No controller no extra wire

    In the skylounge I kept the bigger (4" fixtures) and used LED bulbs with standard bi pin G4 from Imtra


    The absolutely critical thing is to get warm white LEDs. Otherwise it will look like the old fluo bulbs you used to have under the galley cabinet . Some BTW come in warm white / red which is great for pilot house
    Pascal
    Miami, FL
    1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
    2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
    2007 Sandbarhopper 13
    12' Westphal Cat boat

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    Used Imtra Sigma in the salon, only light I could find that was big and also bright enough. work great, dim great, expensive. Using Blue Seas dimmer.
    Down below we have some older Imtras in the hall and heads that I got on Imtra close out. Bedrooms are next, have some Quick Kai lights to install when I get around to it this summer. My advise is to make sure they're bright enough, produce the correct "white" that you prefer, and dim well without flicker.
    CRICKET
    1966 HAT50C101
    Purchased 1985 12v71Ns
    Repowered 1989 with 8v92TI
    Repowered 2001 with 3406E

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    I will eventually be doing the same project. How do you make the panels? What material? How do you hold them up?
    Thanks,

    Tony

    2008 Cheoy Lee Bravo 78 "Bella Sophia"
    1989 78' Hatteras CPMY #311 "Bella Sophia" (sold)
    2007 Everglades 290cc “Bada Bing” (sold)
    2006 Advanced Outdoors 28cc (sold)
    2003 Melges 24 "Bada Bing" (sold)
    2023 HCB 42 “Bada Bing”

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    Quote Originally Posted by tonytrakovich View Post
    I will eventually be doing the same project. How do you make the panels? What material? How do you hold them up?
    I am using a 3/8" plywood that is, or resembles, luan plywood. It is very flexible and lightweight. It needs to be flexible to adapt to the curvature of the ceiling. I am coating the side that goes against the ceiling with a penetrating epoxy (epoxy thinned with xylene) in area where there could possibly be some water intrusion from above, such as under the fly bridge or under areas where there is an air conditioner above. I've had the AC pan overflow before and drip down to whatever is below. I want that water to roll off and show me there is a problem if and when it happens, rather than warping my panel.

    I am wrapping these panels in a foam-backed vinyl headliner material. I am securing the panels to the ceiling, using the existing framing to which the original headliner was stapled, with a 2" wide Velcro which is probably too wide and I'll likely cut that in half. I have to staple the Velcro to all surfaces, not just rely upon the adhesive backing.

    My panels are the same width as was the original headliner pieces so I can use the same framing members. I put the Velcro on the existing framing members. Where there is a seam, I will put a piece of teak batton to cover the seam, and to screw the panels, through the batton strip, to the ceiling for an even better hold....plus, that teak batton will give me that classic yacht look. I am currently working on my first piece this weekend. I'll post photos, assuming I don't screw this up. I chose the crew head to be my Guinea pig so I can make my mistakes there where few will see them.

    This is my first attempt at headliner, so bear with me. . I WILL get it right if not the first time around.
    Ang
    1980 58MY "Sanctuary"
    www.sanctuarycharteryacht.com

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    I installed Imtra "Hatters" lights. I had very limited height and they fit well. I did not use dimmers. I installed switches for several zones instead.

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    Photos, please, and if the quality of your previous work is any predictor, they will look terrific.

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    Re: What light fixtures are you using when updating with new headliner?

    This worked for me:

    Lithonia Lighting FMML 7 840 WL 7-Inch 4000K LED Small Versi Round Wet Location Flush Mount, White
    by Lithonia Lighting
    4.6 out of 5 stars 17 customer reviews

    From Amazon
    Regards,
    Vincent Castigliola
    Lilly Marie - 43 DC 1983
    Pascagoula, Mississippi

    Rather than history as a peaceful continuum interrupted by war, “For the first time in the nation's history men in authority are talking about an "emergency" without a foreseeable end" _ C. Wright Mills 1956

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