Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
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SKYCHENEY
How about a Defever or a Grand Alaskan in the 49-60' range? I like the Alaskan 56. I know, they're Taiwan boats, but still might be worth a look.
Oooh those grand alaskans are niiiice, I went on one at flibs ages ago and it was stunning. Defevers are alright, but the ones I've been on are a lot like a hatt MY. They have a real similar layout, and they all seem to have 3208's or 671's each with turbos, it's too much power to be a real trawler but still so much weight that it's too inefficient to run at speed. Given the choice I'd rather just have a hatt LRC. They have 471 or 671 naturals that burn next to nothing at hull speed. The plus side on the Defevers is a full beam standup engine room with a workbench though. That is kinda nice.
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
This one looks nice. Weird they have no pics of the master or any of the staterooms, and no ER pics. Asked for some.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...uiser-3858150/
There's one in Charleston, but it's been weird to this point in terms of... pretty much everything associated with driving down to take a look at it. I'll be in Asheville, NC next Tuesday and was planning to drive down after I do my safe man thing, but I'm no longer getting a warm fuzzy about anything to do with the boat or the broker. No offense if you are on here, but I think you can understand my feelings at this point. Photos in my email can't be opened, but then they were. Contract and photo of check was supposed to get me in ahead of another looker, but they didn't. Looker passed as well as everyone else who has looked at the boat, but it sounds like it just needs some minor cosmetics. You can find it if you want.
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
You can not compare a deFever to a Hatt or even a Tolly!!!! Not even close.
I looked at a few grand Alaskans a few years ago for a customer. Run Forrest Run!!! There were so many issues that it was a non starter after 5 minutes on board.
Pretty much anything can make it to grand cayman as long as you don’t mind dealing with the Cubans. Question is why? The Bahamas offer much better cruising grounds than cayman...
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
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Pascal
You can not compare a deFever to a Hatt or even a Tolly!!!! Not even close.
I looked at a few grand Alaskans a few years ago for a customer. Run Forrest Run!!! There were so many issues that it was a non starter after 5 minutes on board.
Pretty much anything can make it to grand cayman as long as you don’t mind dealing with the Cubans. Question is why? The Bahamas offer much better cruising grounds than cayman...
Why do I have to worry about dealing with Cubans?
I actually planned to take the 58 to Grand Cayman before bringing it back to Tennessee, but we all know (at least us old timers) how that went. Even it had plenty of range to leave from Key West and make a straight shot. I haven't checked into what is involved in terms of entering Cayman waters these days, but I assume it's the same as the Bahamas where COVID etc. are concerned. It's still the prettiest water I have ever seen, and I've seen lots of water. Just the most magnificent blue. May not ever want to leave. That was part of a discussion with the then wife too.
Life sure can be funny. I'm living out my dream, and she's stuck in a subdivision with a husband who doesn't even own a boat! Now I just need to find myself a mate who likes to travel! Lots of crazies out there for sure!
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
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RonNP
I've been on both and neither one gave me the wow factor. If I was going as far as you have plans I'd look at a Nordhavn. I've toured a few of those boats and they are absolutely amazing with up to a 5000 mile range. If you decide to buy a boat in Seattle October is the time to bring it down. You won't find smoother seas and coming down California that time of the year is amazing all the way to Cabo San Lucas and beyond.
I've been on several NerdHavens, and while I respect all they have to offer, they just don't float my boat from an aesthetics standpoint.
That being said, I like the salty, ship-like look of several trawlers I've seen over the years. The Kady's are awesome, but I want to keep things under the $500K range, at least for now. if things go as well with some of my new business ventures as I think they will, I'll be looking for "Sunday Money". My Dale Earnhardt autographed, Hatteras T-shirt (that I bought as the result of a post on this forum 15 years ago and wore to my first FLIBS) will be hanging in a shadow box, front an center. I'll name the boat, "Safe Money", with my company logo to the left of the name.
Hey, if a man is going to dream, he may as well dream big! LOL I'd be a two Hatt owner again, but it would live in Lauderdale with a full time Captain and also be part of the charter fleet. I'd rather hang out with friends on a boat like that vs driving it myself. :D
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
We fished Cozumel several times in the 80’s. Every time coming around the western edge of Cuba we would be approached by Cuban gun boats. Even though we were in international waters they would try to cut us off. It was more intimidation than anything. But Caymans a long way around with a lot of open water to get there. Unless you’re into diving, which is great the wall is a unique experience, the Bahamas has better places to go.
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
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Pascal
You can not compare a deFever to a Hatt or even a Tolly!!!! Not even close.
I looked at a few grand Alaskans a few years ago for a customer. Run Forrest Run!!! There were so many issues that it was a non starter after 5 minutes on board.
Pretty much anything can make it to grand cayman as long as you don’t mind dealing with the Cubans. Question is why? The Bahamas offer much better cruising grounds than cayman...
Quality varied widely in those boats. Some are okay and some have issues. The newer stuff was better.
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
It a roughly 800nm from Miami to Grand cayman, all open waters, with limited shelter along the way. Cayman is not a great cruising boat destination because of exposure to open water with swells, limited anchorages. It is a beautiful island but best experienced from a nice house with a center console
If you think the Caymans have the most beautiful waters, try the Exumas! Only 220 NM from SoFl, easy day run with shelter along the way and once you get there you have 130nm worth of anchorages, sandbars, beaches etc. 90% of which are protected from swells. nothing like it anywhere in the world.
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
Re: 58LRC or Tollycraft 61?
If you consider an The Offshore brand make sure to ask one question, that is has it had the bottom peeled and epoxy coated. If you think Hatteras’s have blisters, you have never seen blisters like an Offshore can have. I surveyed a 48 pilot house that was a great boat but you could not see the actual bottom because there were so many blisters, seller paid for a $10,000 peel and redcoat job. John