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Maiden Voyage From Hell

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58' TRIPLE CABIN (1970 - 1976)
I took possession of my '74 58 Triple Cabin last Tuesday and set out from New Port Richey on a shakedown cruise with a buddy I purchased my 41 Double Cabin from. Things were going great, and we were crusing at 16-17mph at 2,100rpm at around 10PM in what I thought was familiar water offshore of Sarasota. I was watching my GPS and noticed our speed starting to climb to 18.5mph. Yee ha, we're cruisin' now! Then there was the dreaded sound of fiberglass into sand, and everything came to a grinding halt. All the fridge contents ended up on the galley floor, but luckily we only lost a gallon of orange juice and the beer bottles stayed intact.

After using my full vocabulary of curse words, I radioed Sea Tow to tell them we were hard aground. After giving my position, he informed me there were new shoals after last years storms that had caught more than a few folks by surprise. The good news was we were at extreme low tide, so we should be free around 7AM. I checked the bilge and everything appeared okay. So it was a case of hurry up and wait. We were rocking back and forth on the keel, so sleep was not an option. Not that I would have been able to sleep anyway. I watched the depth until we reached the point I could power off. That was around 5AM. I was able to free her up, and we went inside via Big Sarasota Pass and took the ICW to Venice as the sun came up.

We stopped to grab some breakfast, and headed toward our destination of Cabbage Key. Once back outside, I throttled up to 2,100 and was elated not to feel any vibration after the grounding. We were just north of Boca Grande when I heard my starboard engine losing speed. I immediately pulled the throttles back and killed the engine. We were only a few miles from Gasparilla Marina, so I decided to limp in on the port and check things out. Ten minutes later, the port engine stumbled and died. I had been foolish enough to trust a fuel gauge on a new boat, and didn't top off the tanks before setting out. The seller had assured me the tanks were half full, 425 gallons. We were out of fuel. The generator was also dry, so we couldn't drop the dingy via the electric davit.

I radioed Tow Boat US who brought us 20 gallons of fuel which I dumped into the port engine tank. I filled the filters, hit the starter, and she fired right up. I sent the Tow Boat guy on his way with $250 of my favorite dollars and proceeded to head south. Ten minutes later, we were dead in the water. My Racors were full of crap, and I had no more on board (another stupid move on my part). I had Tow Boat return, and they towed me to Gasparilla Marina and left with $300 more of my favorite dollars.

The marina was closed at that point, so we had to wait til morning to buy new filters. While waiting, I checked the starboard engine which showed no oil on the stick, but plenty in the sump. The port was still full. An inspection the next morning revealed a blown oil line which took another day to have made up and replaced.

During this time, my buddy, who is in his 70's, showed me a large gash in his leg which he said had started out as a bug bite of some sort a couple of days earlier. I suggested he go to a doctor the next morning, which he did. He called my cell from the doctor's office and said he had been advised to return home and seek immediate medical attention, possibly hospitalization. He had apparently been bitten by one of Florida's nasty critters, and his leg was about to rot off. They had just installed the new oil line, so I told him to meet me on the fuel dock and we would head back to Tampa for a flight back to Knoxville, TN.

After fueling, I backed off the dock only to find I had no forward gear on my starboard. After making a wide circle back to the dock, I called the service folks who came to check the problem. Their diagnosis: I had burned up the clutches in the Allison tranny by running on one engine and then being towed. Once again, I emptied my arsenal of curse words especially after being told it would take 3-4 weeks to have the work done! That was not an option, so I left out on my port engine while idleing my starboard to prevent any further damage. The starboard engine was smoking heavily at anything above idle, something it had never done before. I wrote this off to having sucked the bottom of the tank dry.

We made it into Venice just as a storm hit, and planned a dinner stop a the Crow's Nest. As we headed in, I tried the starboard shift again, and viola, it worked! There was no dock space to be had, so we headed back outside. After circling back through my own wake, I noticed I was leaving an oil slick that would make any camel jockey proud. I decided to test the transmission by throttling up. I also wanted to leave that oil slick behind! She came up on plane, and the starboard quit smoking. After a few minutes, I stopped the engines and found low oil on the starboard again. At that point, I switched off the bilge pumps, and headed to Marina Jack on the port engine where we spent the night.

The next morning I had a fellow come down and offer his opinion on what was going on with the starboard. He offered several gloomy theories as to what was happening, and suggested I not run the engine until I had it checked. I had free dockage at the seller's dock, so I locked down the starboard shaft and headed toward Pass a Grill to offload my buddy to catch a flight out of Tampa.

I pulled into the first little marina in the inlet and was met by three teen-age employees who had great difficulty in handling a bow line. Once we were tied, my buddy got off the boat. I was just explaining to one of the marina kids from the stern that I need to set a spring line to help me off the dock as I was running on one engine. About that time, the young girl threw off my bow line! I screamed NO!!!!! They all ran and grabbed ahold of the line, but the tide was going out at about 3 knots, and the wind was at 15, so you know who won that battle! I was tied hard and fast at the stern with the engine switched off. All I could do was cringe as the current carried me back into a piling which made toothpicks out of my teak platform! Once again, I used all my curse words and even rembered a few I had forgotten earlier.

After documenting the accident with management and law enforcement, I set out for New Port Richey. Once outside, I noticed I had lost all my 12 volt electronics on the bridge. I knew they were powered by a battery on the bridge that was kept up by a charger. (The old Hatt is still 32v dc) I hadn't been running the genny because of a small coolant leak, and the battery was dead. No big deal, I'll fire the genny and go on my merry way. I throttle back, and drop down into the pilothouse. I hit the switch, nothing. I go down and pop the hatch. Meanwhile, a storm is coming in and I'm sitting sideways in five footers. I see a large gauge black wire all by its lonesome. Then I see an empty terminal wrapped in electrical tape. I insert the wire, hit the starter at the genny, and she fires right up. I'm searching for something to crimp this terminal back on, the boat is rocking and rolling, glass is breaking in the overhead cabinets, (Cincinnati Bengal mugs, no big loss) and I hear a huge crash from the upper salon. I make my way up and find the sationary plate of one of the two sliding glass doors has shattered into a million pieces! Meanwhile, I can't find anything to crimp the terminal with, and I know I can't risk running the generator without it being securely attached to a battery. So I take another 12 volt battery used to operate the vaccuflush heads, and carry it up to the bridge and connect my GPS.

I'm fighting the wheel with only the port engine with quartering seas coming into my port stern. Needless to say, it was a long night. Thankfully, I find my way into the private channel where the seller lives behind Anclote Key, and my maiden voyage comes to an end at about 12:30AM. I get her tied up, connect the shorepower, and head for the shower. I'm all soaped up, and everything goes black. You guessed it, the breaker on shore has tripped, and I don't have the heart to wake the seller to reset it. So I pop the hatches in the forward bunk, and sweat my way to morning.

I got everything on the boat squared away as best I could, and headed back to Tennessee. I had told my wife of my adventures, so she was waiting on me when I got home with a big hug, a cold drink, and a copy of the movie "Captain Ron" for my viewing pleasure. Is it any wonder I love boating so much.
 
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Ummmm...

Please tell me you got the new boat for a really REALLY good price!
 
Hey, ya know it would have been alot worse if you had been on your "new" Bayliner!!!!...........Pat
 
Passages said:
Ummmm...

Please tell me you got the new boat for a really REALLY good price!


As a matter of fact, I did. It's a great boat that has been sitting a lot. To date I have removed approximately 200 yards of electrical tape, 100 feet of wire that was connected to nothing, and removed 1,000 lbs. of unidentifiable crap. My boot stripe now sits a full three inches higher than when I purchased her! I'm looking forward to getting her back into shape. After taking possession, I patted her on the bulkhead and told her I was sorry she had been put into such a state, and that everything would be okay.
 
I'm sorry to hear of your problems, but I'm sure you'll get it all straightened out and then you'll be able to enjoy her. These kinds of things happen when you take your first voyage. They just aren't usually this extensive.

FWIW, if I were you, I'd get rid of all that 12v battery stuff and return the systems to their original design. I have nothing but a 32v system and a few step down transformers. It works great. I know others will disagree, but it's hard to beat the original Hatt engineering.
 
doc g said:
Hey, ya know it would have been alot worse if you had been on your "new" Bayliner!!!!...........Pat


Yeah, I suppose you're right. But a Bayliner is just as good as any Hatteras for sitting dead in the water! But all things being equal, I feel much more at ease drifting out to sea in my Hatt!
 
This just sounds like a typical day out on the water....am I missing something? :D

Seriously, hope you get all this straightened out and have better days with the boat. The 58TC is a great boat and beautiful too, things will get better. Explain to the boat you are her friend, not like the last owner, and you will do right by her. And, with any luck, she will do right by you.
 
SKYCHENEY said:
I'm sorry to hear of your problems, but I'm sure you'll get it all straightened out and then you'll be able to enjoy her. These kinds of things happen when you take your first voyage. They just aren't usually this extensive.

FWIW, if I were you, I'd get rid of all that 12v battery stuff and return the systems to their original design. I have nothing but a 32v system and a few step down transformers. It works great. I know others will disagree, but it's hard to beat the original Hatt engineering.

This is my first experience with 32v, and I had wondered about the use of step down transformers. I'm not too wild about having all the extra weight and upkeep of separate 12 volt batteries on board. Where can I find the step-down transformers? Also, you may know the answer to this one, I found a positive and negative battery terminal which were taped off behind the helm when I laid it down. It appears there is a factory installed battery tray there. Do you know what this is? Thanks for your response.
 
jim rosenthal said:
This just sounds like a typical day out on the water....am I missing something? :D

Seriously, hope you get all this straightened out and have better days with the boat. The 58TC is a great boat and beautiful too, things will get better. Explain to the boat you are her friend, not like the last owner, and you will do right by her. And, with any luck, she will do right by you.


Per the reply to a previous thread, I have apologized to my boat for her previous owners who should be set out to sea in a 22 foot pontoon boat in 100 foot depths with a 75 foot ski rope attached to a concrete block anchor!
 
If you don't have them, call Hatteras and get the original wiring diagrams. I doubt there were ever any batteries except in the vented engine room space.

Step down transformers can be had at just about any good marine store. I bought one from Boatfix.com the last time I needed it. Usually the Newmar brand is most prevalent.
 
SKYCHENEY said:
If you don't have them, call Hatteras and get the original wiring diagrams. I doubt there were ever any batteries except in the vented engine room space.

Step down transformers can be had at just about any good marine store. I bought one from Boatfix.com the last time I needed it. Usually the Newmar brand is most prevalent.


Thanks for the info. I do seem to have all the original wiring diagrams, but I didn't have time to go over all of them. I will check into the transformers. Once they are installed, I'll make you or anyone else out there a heck of a deal on a half dozen 12 volt chargers!
 
jim rosenthal said:
Explain to the boat you are her friend, not like the last owner, and you will do right by her. And, with any luck, she will do right by you.

Well put, Jim, and how true that is. I went through sort of a similar period of time (no, I didn't have the story we've just read above!) when I took possession of my 58MY where I kept screaming, "My boat hates me! She hates me!" and Ed kept telling me that she was just testing me to see whether I was worthy of her. And then, out of the blue, she started to come around and now she loves me!

Ang
 
Boats are like that and it doesn't help when they're new to you and you're not attuned to how things SHOULD be.

The wise man learns this stuff in close on a new larger (and any Hatt qualifies) boat before heading off into the yonder, preferrably spending a couple of WEEKS aboard before going any significant distance.

If not, well, you will learn these things learn the other way grasshopper..... :D
 
My hell trip looks like summer vacation compared to this one. Motored a project boat from Georgetown, Great Exuma to North Carolina. Lots of excitement but not compared to this. Good luck, and believe me there will be more excitement along the way. Boat : definition: Break Out Another Thousand.
 
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Boss Lady said:
Boat : definition: Break Out Another Thousand.

While I used to find that definition to be pretty accurate, since "moving up" in size, it's more like: Break Out Another Ten-thousand

Ang
 
Genesis said:
Boats are like that and it doesn't help when they're new to you and you're not attuned to how things SHOULD be.

The wise man learns this stuff in close on a new larger (and any Hatt qualifies) boat before heading off into the yonder, preferrably spending a couple of WEEKS aboard before going any significant distance.

If not, well, you will learn these things learn the other way grasshopper..... :D


Thanks for the insight oh wise one of the Hatt, but that's weedhopper to you pal! Make that Mr. weedhopper!
 
Boss Lady said:
My hell trip looks like summer vacation compared to this one. Motored a project boat from Georgetown, Great Exuma to North Carolina. Lots of excitement but not compared to this. Good luck, and believe me there will be more excitement along the way. Boat : definition: Break Out Another Thousand.


Hey, like they say, ship happens! I'll get her squared away. I've tried to make myself feel better about the expense involved in running myself out of fuel (still can't believe I did that, I'm no rookie, I just got excited to play with my new toy) I would have spent more than that on fuel if I weren't sitting in a marina for two days! How's that for boating logic?
 
Heh, I did it on the way home. Not quite as dramatic, but close.

Here's the story....

Bought Gigabite in Ft. Lauderdale and spent about 2 weeks straightening out all the "stuff" noted in the survey. Stuffing boxes needed attention, alarm panels were all screwed up, dozens of smaller items, getting to know where everything is and how it all works, lots of crawling around, bought a full set of charts between Ft. Lauderdale and Home, had two GPSs on board (a working Loran that can read in Lat/Long + a handheld), etc.

After all this I'm pretty confident we're ready to go.

Came out of Ft. Lauderdale headed for Marathon and then up the west coast. Because I'm not familiar with the Hawk Channel I decide we're going to run outside.

New boat to me (Gigabite), so I had no good handle on fuel burn. Figured we'd stop at Marathon if there was any chance of not making Marco Island, otherwise we would fuel there.

Ok, so we go through at Marathon. I send the buddy that I had brought with me as a "boat hand" to pull the fuel lids and tell me what we had (mistake #1 - not checking it myself.) He comes back up the ladder saying "3/4ths in both tanks." We were at idle, fully settled in the water, no slosh issues here.....

Ok, that's cool. We can easily make Marco Island. I'm quite impressed with what the new girl (to me) consumes; indeed, I'm downright giddy with the apparent decent consumption (mistake #2 - believing something is better than it should be!) We go through.

About 50nm out from Marco I note that the house side electrical system's voltage is low - and dropping. Not good. 30nm out I lose the house electrical; we are obviously not charging on that side and the battery is dead. For unknown reasons the AC charger is not working either! Oh, and its about 6:00 and will be dark soon (how much fun is it to run with no lights?!) I figure no problem - we'll be in within an hour and I can figure out what's up overnight and fix it; I've got a good bearing on the inlet and my handheld and compass are fine, plus the paper charts. The pucker factor is getting a bit higher, but still - no real problem.

We're motoring along about 2-3 miles out of the inlet approaching Marco Island, with the inlet clearly visible and the port engine sputters and dies. I immediately back down the starboard engine to 1000 RPM to keep from overloading it, then sent my boat-bud down to look at the fuel gauges - he shouts up "BOTH ON EMPTY!"

Oh oh.

So I decide to make the remaining 2-3 miles to the inlet on the other engine. Once safely inside the inlet, I instruct my buddy to go down to the cockpit and throw the fuel manifolds over to select STARBOARD for both engines. He disappears, and 30 seconds later the STARBOARD engine dies! Of course he threw the valves all right - the WRONG WAY!

Now we've got a real problem. I've got a running generator and ONE good battery bank (generator/engine start starboard), but that generator won't be running for very long! If I kill the starboard battery trying to re-prime I'm totally screwed, given that I have no idea why we have no AC charger output - getting the generator running again may not help me!

I toss the anchor, safely inside Marco Harbor, and TURN OFF the genset.

I then use the parallel relay to get enough power to call TowBoat/US (unlimited towing policy which I've had for many years and not yet needed!) and request fuel. They ask how much - I tell them "as much as you can get in the towboat please; we're in the harbor."

They bring it about 2 hours later; 30 gallons in 5 gallon Jerry Cans. We pour it in the STARBOARD tank. Now, with a secure generator fuel supply, I attempt to re-prime and start the Starboard engine.

No dice. The "fuel out" condition sucked SOMETHING into the starboard side's fuel system - it won't pull fuel. It pulls a very nice vacuum on the system, but no liquid. Damn.

We call the TowBoat people back and tell them we need a tow in as we can't get the starboard engine up and are not about to kill our only good battery and perhaps the parallel relay playing games attempting to parallel-start into a dead bank. They comply - a couple of hours later. Its now about 10:30; they tow us to a local marina where we tie up for the night.

In the AM I find that the starboard positive alternator lead was loose and burned completely through, which is why we had no charge. The AC charger had a fuse fail due to vibration, which is why IT didn't pick up the load. The fuel situation? Best as I can figure my "boat buddy" read the gauge wrong..... I've no other explanation as on 3/4 of both tanks we certainly had enough fuel to make Marathon to Marco Island.....

The fuel restriction was cleared with a vacuum tank and $300 later (I wasn't about to argue with the mechanic who owned the vaccum tank as we did not have one nor a vacuum source!) we were back underway......
 
Gee, you guys gotta be more careful! OK, OK, I'm glad I'm out of range of any thrown tools!

It doesn't have to be your delivery ride home or shakedown to have the trip from hell. We've all been there at one time or another, of course. I had a pretty memorable trip to Key West from Hillsborough Inlet a couple of years ago where I thought it couldn't have gotten much worse. From surprise microsqualls to all kinds of little (and BIG) problems with the boat. After coming home to my familiar dock on day 6, tired, sweaty and rung-out, I almost hung a for-sale sign on the boat right then and there. And that's after I'd really been through the boat for over a year and several trips. In fact, that's even more demoralizing because you feel you've been prudent and checked over just about everything! And it still lays a big turd on you.

But, then you can have 3 nice trips in a row without a single niggly fault and you wonder if life can get any better. That's boating.

All we can really do is deal with probs as soon as we see them, and always travel with good tools and lots of spares of the common items that can ruin your day. Roll the dice and hope mother ocean and mother Hatteras treat us gently. Oh, and enjoy your beer looking at that nice sunset or a fishbox full of dolphin!
 
I must be one of those extremely lucky people. Being a novice boater and not even knowing how to start a diesel when I bought Traveler, I made the 80 mile trip from Panama City to Pensacola through the Gulf without incedent. This was my first big trip in any boat.

I guess I didn't really know what I was getting into and I don't know what I would have done if I had problems like that happen.

Just head North, I guess...

I learned a few lessons on this Forum though. I would never attempt that now. I realize how lucky I was. And if I had known then what I know now about Traveler's issues...
 

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