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    Injector sizing

    Has anybody changed the injector to a smaller size to save lower the fuel burn rate?
    Slainte
    1988 - 67' CPMY
    Houston, Texas

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    Re: Injector sizing

    You'll achieve the same result by pulling back the throttles. And, you'll still have the hp there if you need it. Right now I'm helping my daughter and son in law put the correct injectors back into their 671ti engines to fix the problem caused by the prior owner doing the same thing you are suggesting. The smaller injectors are preventing them from hitting their top rpm under a load, and the boat has trouble getting up on plane. I'd strongly recommend against the move
    Everyone should believe in something - I believe I will go fishing - Henry David Thoreau

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kquaine View Post
    Has anybody changed the injector to a smaller size to save lower the fuel burn rate?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Bradley View Post
    You'll achieve the same result by pulling back the throttles. And, you'll still have the hp there if you need it. I'd strongly recommend against the move
    The same horse power is required to move the hull at a same speed.
    Horse power requires fuel.
    The only thing you would change is top end operation.

    Change in operation offers better results.
    Changing the throttles to a slower pace does the job better.

    I also strongly recommend against the move.

    BTW; I'm looking at the next size up in injector size.
    Last edited by Captain Ralph; 03-16-2024 at 11:02 PM.

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Isn't there an FAQ about this subject? If there isn't , we need one. Seems like everyone who can't use the search function has to ask this question.
    --- The poster formerly known as Scrod ---

    I want to live in Theory, everything works there.

    1970 36C375

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Would be cool if a chart did exist for Detroits. Next step up in size for performance gains, if even worth doing. Seems to come up a lot.

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless72 View Post
    Would be cool if a chart did exist for Detroits. Next step up in size for performance gains, if even worth doing. Seems to come up a lot.
    I have notes listing the HP & Injectors on the DDC engines. Mostly 12V71**s.

    But it is not just injectors on any ole Detroit; #1 concern when messing with injectors on a turbo charged engine, you sometimes have to change the turbos also. That air / fuel ratio thing.

    There can be also, cam shaft timing, blower ratios and by-pass blowers.

    But wait, there's more; Inter-cooling, After-cooling and on some models both (TIAB)

    Always stay stock when you can. Just pull the throttles back.

    My problem, tired of slowing down when crawling up the back of a swell when I need to be moving.
    It is rare when this happens since we mostly operate in LSD mode but some times we get chased out of the ocean or encounter an inlet at the wrong time, could use some extra ponies.
    Last edited by Captain Ralph; 03-17-2024 at 11:57 AM.

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    Re: Injector sizing

    There probably WAS a chart of injector sizes and performance figures at some point when companies like J&T and Stewart & Stephenson were marinizing Detroit themselves and selling them as OEM engines. The one company I know of which have always been DD dealers and have been around forever is Western Branch Diesel in Tidewater, VA. If anyone would have that sort of information, they would, if they are still around. They are either in Chesapeake or Portsmouth, I think, can't recall which.

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless72 View Post
    Would be cool if a chart did exist for Detroits. Next step up in size for performance gains, if even worth doing. Seems to come up a lot.
    I have it for 8V71's but can't seem to figure out how to upload it here. If anyone wants it I can email or screenshot it and add as an image

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Quote Originally Posted by Briankinley2004 View Post
    I have it for 8V71's but can't seem to figure out how to upload it here. If anyone wants it I can email or screenshot it and add as an image
    That is exactly what I'm looking for. Please send to mwood2580@yahoo.com. Thanks!!

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    Re: Injector sizing

    Quote Originally Posted by Briankinley2004 View Post
    I have it for 8V71's but can't seem to figure out how to upload it here. If anyone wants it I can email or screenshot it and add as an image
    3 page PDF can not up-load here. I will type in the data of interest to this thread;

    8V-71 230Shp N55 @1800RPM
    8V-71 296Shp N65 @2100RPM
    8V-71 325Shp N70 @2300RPM
    Compression Ratio 18.7 tp 1

    8V-71TI 340Shp N70 @2100RPM
    8V-71TI 450Shp N90 @2300RPM
    Compression Ratio 17 to 1

    These would be DDC stock figures with normal cam timing.
    Please note the lower compression ratios on the TI models.
    Dated 9-95
    No comments on what turbo is used.

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