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  1. #11

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    Watch a Boat test video on a Choy Lee Bravo 72 . They said it weighed about 95,000 lbs if I Romberg correctly. Then I watch one on the new Hatt 70 and I think it weighed 150,000 lbs. I quest if the Choy Lee was built properly with light weight materials that difference could be ok, but usually in the boat building industry the more weight the higher the cost to build unless you are using a lot of carbon fiber. John
    Mahalo V
    1974 53 Motoryacht
    Hull Number 406
    San Diego, Ca. Ready 32 Nordic Tug, Brunswick Ga.

  2. #12

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    I seriously doubt a 72 CL would weight 95000 pounds...

    I did quite a bit of research last year on boats of that size range and vintage and while Cheoy Lees are pretty good I wasn't impressed by the performance, fuel burn and range. They are not light boats and need quite a bit of power to cruise on plane. They often need the larger optional engine packages to perform adequately

    Also looked at Horizon and other Far East boats and the end the buyers ended up with an 84 Lazzara. 15 months and 500 hours later they have no regret. The quality and performance in fantastic. Being lighter the ride is not as good is rough stuff as a hatteras 80 but it s an acceptable trade off for the 32kts top speed and the low fuel burn: 74usg at 20kts on 45% load. 65% cruise yields 26kts on 115usg. Most Horizon, Cheoy Lee, Johnson and even Hargrave struggle to cruise at 20/21 on 100/110 Gph

    I believe that CL uses fiberglass tanks, a big plus of aluminum
    Pascal
    Miami, FL
    1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
    2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
    2007 Sandbarhopper 13
    12' Westphal Cat boat

  3. #13

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    Pascal, just checked the video, says dry weight of 82,218 and with fuel and people on board for test 92,600 lbs.
    Mahalo V
    1974 53 Motoryacht
    Hull Number 406
    San Diego, Ca. Ready 32 Nordic Tug, Brunswick Ga.

  4. #14

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    I checked other sites, yeah That s light for a 72 footer. Good performance and fuel too, at least with IPS. They definitely stepped upmtheir game on this one
    Pascal
    Miami, FL
    1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
    2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
    2007 Sandbarhopper 13
    12' Westphal Cat boat

  5. #15

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    The 80 Hatteras is 193,000 lbs. The 80 Ocean Alexander is 153,000 lbs. The 78 Cheoy Lee is 134,000 lbs. The Hatteras has a 1 foot wider beam. The CL has the 3412E engines. Don’t know much about Cats but I have heard they are good engines.
    Thanks,

    Tony

    2008 Cheoy Lee Bravo 78 "Bella Sophia"
    1989 78' Hatteras CPMY #311 "Bella Sophia" (sold)
    2007 Everglades 290cc “Bada Bing” (sold)
    2006 Advanced Outdoors 28cc (sold)
    2003 Melges 24 "Bada Bing" (sold)
    2023 HCB 42 “Bada Bing”

  6. #16

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    Boat is fully vacated. Last things off the boat is Jenny and I and the LGYC burgee.
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    Thanks,

    Tony

    2008 Cheoy Lee Bravo 78 "Bella Sophia"
    1989 78' Hatteras CPMY #311 "Bella Sophia" (sold)
    2007 Everglades 290cc “Bada Bing” (sold)
    2006 Advanced Outdoors 28cc (sold)
    2003 Melges 24 "Bada Bing" (sold)
    2023 HCB 42 “Bada Bing”

  7. #17

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    Amazing how much crap you accumulate over 13 years.
    Thanks,

    Tony

    2008 Cheoy Lee Bravo 78 "Bella Sophia"
    1989 78' Hatteras CPMY #311 "Bella Sophia" (sold)
    2007 Everglades 290cc “Bada Bing” (sold)
    2006 Advanced Outdoors 28cc (sold)
    2003 Melges 24 "Bada Bing" (sold)
    2023 HCB 42 “Bada Bing”

  8. #18

    Re: Cleaning out Bella Sophia. Sad day.

    Quote Originally Posted by tonytrakovich View Post
    The 80 Hatteras is 193,000 lbs. The 80 Ocean Alexander is 153,000 lbs. The 78 Cheoy Lee is 134,000 lbs. The Hatteras has a 1 foot wider beam. The CL has the 3412E engines. Don’t know much about Cats but I have heard they are good engines.
    The 3412Es are probably the best in that HP range (1400hp). I put 3500 hours over 8 years on a pair of these, when the boat was sold at 5500 hours / 13 years survey and oil analysis were clean. No smoke on start up. Never did anything but routine maintenance except a fuel cooler. Parts are reasonable too. Just had to replace the main computer on one of the 1650hp C32 i run and it was $3300. Not cheap but a fraction of the cost on an MTU or MAN
    Pascal
    Miami, FL
    1970 53 MY #325 Cummins 6CTAs
    2014 26' gaff rigged sloop
    2007 Sandbarhopper 13
    12' Westphal Cat boat

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