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08-21-2017 06:59 AM #2Senior Member
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I hope they locate the missing Sailors.
I remember the responses in the forum from the last time this happened and I am flabbergasted to see it has happened again.
It's beyond my comprehension to believe that something like this could happen, and then happen again a few months later. What the frak is going on?
Raises huge concerns about the readiness and capabilities of not only The Navy but Our Armed Forces in general. I'm not an alarmist, just a realist, and to collide with another ship, with the systems, lookouts, redundancies, procedures, etc., it's disconcerting to see that it could happen again.Last edited by ralexa6808; 08-21-2017 at 07:03 AM.
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Tragic, avoidable, and worrisome- if this shows the state of readiness of our Navy, we are in big trouble.
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08-21-2017 09:04 AM #4Senior Member
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Before we get too critical of our people in uniform, could it be that these two events are just another form of running down civilians with trucks and vans?
What if our enemies have decided that ramming our naval vessels is an effective way to fight us, when they do not have weapons that match ours?
Pete
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08-21-2017 09:37 AM #5Senior Member
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If our Navy, or any branch, is so complacent to allow a a foreign vessel of any size approach so close that a collision happens after the the USS Cole, causing the death of 17 American Sailors, is careless. Those missing Sailors, and all in uniform deserve better.
God bless our defenders!GLORY Hull # 365
Northport, NY
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08-21-2017 09:56 AM #6Senior Member
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I have to wonder if our naval officers have the freedom to fire on a non military vessel approaching them in an offensive conduct? With all the political correctness, I doubt it.
Perhaps a new order from the POTUS that any vessel approaching one of our military vessels without permission, within a mile, will be fired upon/sunk!
Pete
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08-21-2017 03:04 PM #8Senior Member
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Experts are saying focus is more on social and sexual orientation taining rather than navigational training. Anyone with half a brain knew the changes being implemented by Obama would degrade the military.
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08-22-2017 10:13 AM #9Senior Member
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You have an LRC right? What you are stating is the equivalent of you being able to ram your LRC into a small USCG boat!
The navy has long been flawed in the training and grooming of their ship-driving officers. Which is really sad and ironic (at the same time), because the navy originally set many of the standards for ship operations. I suggest now the navy turn to the merchant mariners in order to learn how to drive ships.
But you don't have to listen to me, this guy gives specifics from living on both sides! http://gcaptain.com/us-navy-loss-uss...t-keeps-going/
Two quotes from gcaptain forum:
4 collisions in 1 year
USS John S. McCain
USS Fitzgerald
USS Louisiana
USS Lake Champlain
this one is even more painful, because it's so true
want to take out the US navy? Sell your destroyers and buy a container ship.FTFD... i drive a slow 1968 41c381
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It appears the McCain was at anchor or at a dead stop from that pic.
Last edited by barkdee; 08-23-2017 at 09:03 AM.