Good Deal??? 1990 58C

[capttonyf]

Does anyone know this boat and it's current condition? If the overall condition is good and the only major problem is a Clapped out motor this may have the potential of being a Great Deal for someone. The 65C is a better, shallower boat with the same operating costs but if this boat can be purchased for $50,000 and you put $100,000 into a rebuilt motor and misc updates you may have something here. The listing even states it has $50K in motor parts that come with it. Hope this helps someone out.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990.../United-States

Tony.

[jim rosenthal]

That looks like a lot of work. Nice interior, though. Maybe some brave HOF member is stepping up to the plate, even as we read this...

[saltshaker]

If they have all the parts i wonder why they arent fixing it. Boat looks good and not many 58C have the dark wood interiors. Big concern would be the bad crank. If thats the case then the engine has to come out. If the block is damaged then the repair will be even higher. But given the price and the parts that come with it. It does sound like it could be a good deal. I almost bought a very clean one that had high time on one engine. Engine was tired but still running reasonably well. I went up to 180K but the seller wanted more. Boat sold over a year later for around 185K. If this one could be bought fixed and put in good condition for 150K id think that would be a real nice deal, providing the other engine is good.

[krush]

Pull the engines (chop into small pieces) and put in small deeres, kubota, cummins, etc and make a trawler. $4 diesel is here, next is $5. Those that can afford to run these boats can also afford a much newer/nicer boat.

[rsmith]

Pull the engines (chop into small pieces) and put in small deeres, kubota, cummins, etc and make a trawler. $4 diesel is here, next is $5. Those that can afford to run these boats can also afford a much newer/nicer boat.

If your going to go sloooow the boat needs a keel to keep it tracking straight in any kind of following sea. I don't know about the 58 but I've fished on some of thesekeel less go fast boats and they suck trolling in a beam or following sea.

[krush]

If your going to go sloooow the boat needs a keel to keep it tracking straight in any kind of following sea. I don't know about the 58 but I've fished on some of thesekeel less go fast boats and they suck trolling in a beam or following sea.

Fishing is a fun activity...it will just have to be done from the dock.

[saltshaker]

If your going to go sloooow the boat needs a keel to keep it tracking straight in any kind of following sea. I don't know about the 58 but I've fished on some of thesekeel less go fast boats and they suck trolling in a beam or following sea.

The 58C has the biggest keel I've ever seen on a SF. Boat draws 5'11" because of it. My 65 has a pretty good sized keel but not nearly as deep as the 58C. Not sure how stable the boat would be at 7-8 kts after removing 16K lbs from low in the hull. Making a SF into a trawler is a bad idea unless you plan on filing the ER with lead.

[Pete]

Krush, AMEN, you would not see the current market values for mid sized recreational classic boats, if use for their intended purpose made any economic sense. Even given one free, you then have the fuel, maintenance, parts costs, dockage, etc. of a seven figure boat. As you point out, if you can afford to own and use it, you have what it takes to buy newer.

Pete

[saltshaker]

Pull the engines (chop into small pieces) and put in small deeres, kubota, cummins, etc and make a trawler. $4 diesel is here, next is $5. Those that can afford to run these boats can also afford a much newer/nicer boat.

Fix it and keep it the way it was designed. Given all the parts that come with it, it would probably cost more to repower with new small diesels than to fix the 16V92. The cost to get the engines out will be the same either way. A used set of 3412 Cats would be a nice package for that boat.

[Tim Powell]

Does anyone know this boat and it's current condition? If the overall condition is good and the only major problem is a Clapped out motor this may have the potential of being a Great Deal for someone. The 65C is a better, shallower boat with the same operating costs but if this boat can be purchased for $50,000 and you put $100,000 into a rebuilt motor and misc updates you may have something here. The listing even states it has $50K in motor parts that come with it. Hope this helps someone out.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990.../United-States

Tony.

All you guys keep talking about this 58c and its price there is anotherone for less than 200 offered. Why not just purchase thart one. Its running!! By the time you finish with that 16 cylender beast it will cost you a 50000 $ and you still got one with high hours. If you going to fish it and run it the way it was intended i bet at cruse it burns beteen 70 to 90 gallons a hour. I do not have any idear of speed but you can bet it wont keep up with others in its class of today.
I have just finished a 52c and i tell you what ever you think you going to spend double it. Now if that does not cool you down then go for it. I belive i would do what Jack said put new engines in it
but you better like it cause you going to keep it a while.
REMEMBER this is a as is boat you still got all the operating systems to worry with AIR OR COOLING STEARING ELECTRONICS AND THE BIG ONE COSMEDICS GOOD LUCK. Baised on the 52 i just finished i can see 300 easely spent if you doo it 3/4 right. Chew on that. Its the rest of the story, The 58c is huge keel is at least 4 feet and it draws what at least 5.5 feet the cock pit is square dancable. Whash that tower no thanks it probley 30 feet in the air, Look twice and think three times. 400 thousand in a 58 c not me.