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  1. #1

    Turbo Leak 671 TI

    I need some assistance in determining where this turbo is leaking. Is it a seal or a gasket beneath the clamp? Does this look familar to any of you? What would be my next course of action for repair? Thanks for the help!
    John
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    J Dickson

  2. Re: Turbo Leak 671 TI

    That is a NASTY exhaust leak and has been going on a while (or is fairly extreme)

    Its difficult to know exactly where it is coming from, but you need to find it pronto. With the carbon all over the intake side and relative lack of it on the pipe outbound my guess is that it is in the seal between the exhaust housing and the center section, but its hard to know for sure. The way I find these is to start with a dead cold engine, have someone start it and spray a soapy solution on all the joints - you'll see bubbles where the leak is. This has to be done on a COLD engine and immediately on start as that part of the exhaust gets hot FAST and will evaporate off the solution before it can bubble (putting cold water on hot cast iron is a great way to have it crack too.) If its the center section to exhaust housing that is leaking it is a near certainty that erosion has occurred on the mating pieces and the turbo needs reconditioning or replacement. You can use Sikaflex on the exhaust flange to pipe joint (I do UNLESS there is a high-temp gasket in there) but I wouldn't attempt it on the hotside center-section to housing joint as any that gets mobile in there could cause the turbo to grenade under load.

    The potentially-very-bad news you may have a MAJOR problem in your airbox. Pull those inspection covers and have a look. Some gunk is not serious but if it is up to the level of the ports on the liners (or worse is partially obstructing them) you've got big trouble and there's a decent chance that significant internal damage in the form of excessive wear has already occurred. There are no safe ways to clean the airbox short of a teardown; the "boxed-in" situation arises when you have gunk in the ports or above their level and yet the engine is running ok - you're damned if you try to clean them and liberate some of it or get it in the cylinders, and you could be damned if you don't and it breaks free and goes in there.

    The blanket involved needs replacement too, while its not oil (immediate fire risk) the soot does fairly serious damage to the insulation quality of the blanket. Turbo blankets are relatively cheap (~100 or so); change it once you find and fix the leak.

    Get some pictures of the airboxes and liner ports up here.
    http://www.denninger.net - Home page with blog links and more
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  3. #3

    Re: Turbo Leak 671 TI

    happened to a buddys boat. try a new clamp, but check the flanges, they may be eaten up.
    JW

  4. #4

    Re: Turbo Leak 671 TI

    Karl, where do you find turbo blankets for $100 or so? I'd like to have four new ones at prices like that!
    Ang
    1980 58MY "Sanctuary"
    www.sanctuarycharteryacht.com

  5. #5

    Re: Turbo Leak 671 TI

    The circular clamps used on these turbo installations are a poor way to connect things together and, as noted, should be checked. I have rebuilt turbo's in the past and it's not really difficult though considerable care needs to be taken. Turbo rebuild kits used to be readily available but I haven't done one in years so I don't know if they still are. But they should be for these common AirResearch units if you are interested in doing it yourself.

    Seems like a lot of soot from the engine to me also but, of course, if it's been deposited over a long period of time, it may not be an issue...

    Re those turbo blankets - Count me in on those $100/set.

    Two years ago I priced them from some company recommended here (can't remember what company at the moment) and got a quote of something like $1500. So I'm definitely interested in the $100 buck versions!

  6. #6

    Re: Turbo Leak 671 TI

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Karl, where do you find turbo blankets for $100 or so? I'd like to have four new ones at prices like that!
    Contact Joaquim Cartaya 305-266-9897

    A few years ago now but for 692's I got turbo blanket G5; turbo sweep G8 and special strip G8 all for $170.00

    He's at 8221 SW 13th Terrace
    Miami

    I was looking for a "deal" on replacement Walker filters in FLL (didn't get one) but they knew Joaquim.

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    Re: Turbo Leak 671 TI

    Add...that was one side, of course.

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