Cruisair Amerage Draw

The salon Cruisair unit on my 56 MY has started to draw a lot of amps, albeit only for a split second (like 1/10th of a second). When the compressor kicks on, it will draw anywhere between 60-80 amps and then drop down to normal draw. Other than the amperage spike the unit seems to be working fine. I noticed it because the lights flicker and the genset swoops low for a moment when the spike occurs. It also occurs on dockside power. The spike is both in the cool and the heat mode. It is an original Cruisar 24K BTU unit model WFAH 24C. Does this result from a need for a charge, a compressor problem, an electrical problem or just from a unit that is need of replacement. Not sure where to start checking but I would hate to have to replace the unit if it is something simple. Any help would be appreciated.

Add bad start capacitor as another possible cause for the problem. Hoping Steve might see this and chime in. Will head to his forum soon.

Had exactly the same symptoms with my 24K BTU Salon Cruisair. The sypmtoms then got worse - the compressor would start/stop/restart/stop/restart and finally run perfectly fine until the next time it had to restart. Turned out it was the connection at the compressor itself which had become corroded/burnt. This is the connection "box"on the actual compressor itself, NOT the large connection/relay box that is mounted on the same frame.

The power connection in the small box was almost non-existent. The terminal on the wire had maybe half of the wire strands still remaining and all green from corrosion. I cut back the wire to good core, installed a new connector, cleaned the male terminal at the compressor and reattached the wire.

Surge current went from around 80A back down to around 45 and genny no longer dropped RPM.

As noted, it could be the start cap but in my case it wasn't so check out those wires/connections.

John~

I have answered your post in my forum:

http://marine-ac.com/forum/troublesh...pressor/#p2049

Steve~

I'll never understand why people can't go to Steve's site with their questions first. He is a great guy and would probably never say anything, but he has started a site and several times requested very politely, people ask their questions there. It appears some people are just too rude to get it. Another little point that has contributed to the site not being what it used to be.

I don't agree; IMO any post re Hatt maint, regardless if there is a better tech site for the specific issue, should be here first so all Hatt folks can see it and be aware of it. If you go straight to to Steve's site, for example, then no one here has the benefit of seeing what folks are experiencing with a critical part of the boat's systems.

I completely agree with Mike.

I think Steve Pooler is a great addition to this forum, but let's not forget this forum is funded and and administered by Sam's Marine and using questions here to divert traffic to another commercial site for an answer just isn't kosher (I am tempted to use a stronger term) in my estimation. A Hatteras-related question asked here should be answered here. So Steve, cut and paste the answer in your forum here.

My Cruisair amp draw issue was similar to what Mike describes. It was discussed ad-nauseum in another post here. My guy rewired the burned wires on the units and changed out a bad control knob and my problems were 100% solved.

Steve has a point. it is hard to monitor everyone else's sights to offer free advice and still get some work done. I give him credit for helping here but reality says that his sight is specific to AC and if there is an AC question you want him to answer have some courtesy and ash it there. last I checked Sams does not do AC repair so I see no conflict. Owning a Hatteras does not make you special. It's not like you have to be a gazillionair to buy one of the classics. Taking care of them is something we do because we love them and want to enjoy them. That's what make you special.

I just bought a 5 unit raw water intake manifold from Sam's, so they do sell AC related products. To me, it's kind of like hanging around someone's store soliciting their customers by telling them you'll answer a question if they come over to your store. Steve has done a super job answering questions right here, including mine, and doesn't need to stoop to that, IMO.

George my point is that they do not sell or service the AC units. If the sell the original manifolds that's great but most often the problem is the AC unit and components. Steve serves others outside the Hatteras family. I have not seen any sign of him poaching business from sams and if that was their impression than it is Dougs to deal with.

Gentleman....If I might...

Yes...I came here because I had Hatteras experience...Several years of it...

I'm NOT here to sell...I do offer free advise here & on my site...I also offer it on other sites...

YES...I want to build my site that can make me sales...I am in business...Should I feel bad about that?

I don't believe so....I only do what I do here & otherwise to maybe get someone to buy from me...

How bout that for honesty ????

I'm not the cheapest guy around but I do give...Qualified advise...And I hope folks buy from me for that advise....

Nothing More...Nothing Less....

My hopes are that folks will see the time & effort I put into every post (here or on my site) and consider buying from me....

What hurts is...When I do spend that time (as a known risk) that folks do not choose to buy from me (no i'm not the cheapest)

But where else can you get the dedication, education & free info that I provide ????

That has to be worth something No ????

I will continue to offer advise for free...Yes it maybe helps me...But all my colleagues say I'm nuts for doing so...I should be charging for it !!!

Maybe that will end up how it is, or something like Boatdiesel.com ...I'm just not sure yet...

For now...I like helping folks hoping they will buy from me....But No charge for the help.

Steve~

BTW....Don't think I could, or would, Even want to take anything away from Sam's...

I mean What For ?....If anything I would refer to them....

I only answer the questions presented...And sometimes my place is a better central location for marine A/C....

Since I have been doing this....It does get harder to keep up with all involved....

Mind you though....I do love my Hatterasses ;)

Steve~

[QUOTE=GJH;197961]I completely agree with Mike.

I think Steve Pooler is a great addition to this forum, but let's not forget this forum is funded and and administered by Sam's Marine and using questions here to divert traffic to another commercial site for an answer just isn't kosher (I am tempted to use a stronger term) in my estimation. A Hatteras-related question asked here should be answered here. So Steve, cut and paste the answer in your forum here.[/QUOT


People here always promote Jarrett Bay and do not seem to have a problem with that althought they are competition to SAMS. Steve gives free advice that it had taken him decades to obtain. Why does he have an obligation to C&P his answers here? I think that buying a discounted part from Steve for his excellant advice is the least someone can do.

If anyone is offended by Steve trying to grow his site then DON'T ASK FOR HIS ADVICE.

Wow- I appreciate help from anyone and anywhere I can get it. Steve(s), Mike, George, Eric et. al. I will not dignify the babble about being "rude" with response.

In typical HOF fasion this is getting blown out of proportion. I think the point here is that if you want spcoolin/Steve to answer a question, then you should post it on his site. If you are looking for help from the rest of us, post it here. Best option would be to post on both sites. Once you get an answer from Steve and you determine what is actually wrong, then you can update your thread here for the benefit of all who followed the thread. If Steve happens to answer it here that's great, but we shouldn't expect him to copy everything from his site over here. I don't think I've ever seen a post where spcoolin actually solicited his services. There are several professionals here that regularly offer their free expertise but never solicit business. If they help you out from time to time why wouldn't you call on them when you need a service they provide?

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I don't agree; IMO any post re Hatt maint, regardless if there is a better tech site for the specific issue, should be here first so all Hatt folks can see it and be aware of it. If you go straight to to Steve's site, for example, then no one here has the benefit of seeing what folks are experiencing with a critical part of the boat's systems.

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You surprise me Mike,

Every part of your FX-1 issues/posts were linked to/from here on Sam's...All it would take someone is a single click to see what was going on..

And....FX-1's were NEVER part of ANY Hatteras...

Steve~

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In typical HOF fasion this is getting blown out of proportion. I think the point here is that if you want spcoolin/Steve to answer a question, then you should post it on his site. If you are looking for help from the rest of us, post it here. Best option would be to post on both sites. Once you get an answer from Steve and you determine what is actually wrong, then you can update your thread here for the benefit of all who followed the thread. If Steve happens to answer it here that's great, but we shouldn't expect him to copy everything from his site over here. I don't think I've ever seen a post where spcoolin actually solicited his services. There are several professionals here that regularly offer their free expertise but never solicit business. If they help you out from time to time why wouldn't you call on them when you need a service they provide?

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Thanks Jack...And that's all I really ask...I offer help here & give it...I offer help on my site & give it...

Both places are free...

It is easier for me to give it on my site...My hopes are that no matter where you get my help...
You consider buying from me for that free help...I do spend many hours a day freely giving EXSpurtqualified advise...

I don't feel that is a lot to ask...

Steve~

Good grief folks!
These are two great sites we're talking about. I've received great knowledge from both.
When it comes to AC issues, I'll normally post here (for everyone to further their knowledge AND on Steve's site). I post on Steve's because he's the resident expert and responds quickly and accurately.

On our site, I'll probably get the correct answer, but only after I've read about 5 different ways to skin the cat.

When I want to rub people the wrong way for fun, I'll normally spend my time on TheHullTruth or YachtForums!

Seems to me we have too much in common to have these piss ant discussions.

yacht forums... GAG talk about a bunch of self important legends in their own mind!

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yacht forums... GAG talk about a bunch of self important legends in their own mind!

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They are definitely legends in their own minds!! :)
I need to go somewhere get my comedy fix though!

Boatnut - once again, a puerile response devoid of substance but filled with bile and hot air. As usual, your acerbic tone lends more heat than light to the question posed. Then again, you do prove the old adage true--there are more asses in the world than there are horses.

hey guys, this may be the wrong thread, but what would the normal start draw be and what's the normal run draw on a 24kbtu?

and on a 10kbtu
and a 5k btu
and a 16k btu

Lol That's all the systems I have and I can't find the info anywhere... this thread shows up over and over no matter what I search.

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Originally Posted by Hat4Shay

hey guys, this may be the wrong thread, but what would the normal start draw be and what's the normal run draw on a 24kbtu?

and on a 10kbtu
and a 5k btu
and a 16k btu

Lol That's all the systems I have and I can't find the info anywhere... this thread shows up over and over no matter what I search.

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It depends. Do you have the capacitor box that Hatteras used in the late 70's to smooth out the startup load?

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I don't agree; IMO any post re Hatt maint, regardless if there is a better tech site for the specific issue, should be here first so all Hatt folks can see it and be aware of it. If you go straight to to Steve's site, for example, then no one here has the benefit of seeing what folks are experiencing with a critical part of the boat's systems.

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Mike is dead on - This was always my first stop with Pau Hana and issues I ran into, as well as sharing something I did that worked (yes, sometimes it happened). I came here first for Crusair issues, even though in my case ripping out the units turned out to be the solution.

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John~

I have answered your post in my forum:

http://marine-ac.com/forum/troublesh...pressor/#p2049

Steve~

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Steve, I tried to look and got error 404, page not found.

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Originally Posted by rwaldrop13

Steve, I tried to look and got error 404, page not found.

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Steve passed away several years ago.

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Originally Posted by rwaldrop13

Steve, I tried to look and got error 404, page not found.

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unfortunately, i believe steve passed a number of years ago.

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Originally Posted by rwaldrop13

Steve, I tried to look and got error 404, page not found.

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MikeP has not posted since 2017 and Steve Pooler passed away many years ago. You are responding to posts from 2011

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Originally Posted by Beachcomber

Steve passed away several years ago.

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I assumed from the responses in the thread Steve was still around.

Mods:

Old threads should probably be closed to posting after a few years and become read only so this doesn't happen.

Noted. I will close the thread.