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With the loss of Pau Hana in Hurricane Ian, I had a list of unfinished/never started projects that I came across this morning. One of them was to "restore" the shore water connection on the side of the deckhouse, instead of the improv connection thru the starboard engine room vent. While we are nowhere near starting to consider returning to boat life, I have started window shopping, just starting to compare boats, looking at a broad mix. Of course, 5 out of 6 on my list on BoatTrader are Hats (big surprise), but as I start to look at the ones with better pictures, I notice that a lot of them seem to have their shore water connection extremely close to the electrical shore tie plugs. Pau Hana's original water connection was actually not that close, and the improv was nowhere near electrical. Am I overthinking this? I had planned to rework the original connection with new fittings/plumbing into the starboard engine room where the pump, accumulator, distribution manifold were all at. Of course the hot water heater was in the port engine room. Pau Hana had some "quirks" being one of the first generation 54' EDMY, and I was never able to get any information from Hatteras about her before the buyout and subsequently losing her to the hurricane. All the manuals were lost between the original owner and the PO's we bought her from. I have some of my notes, and my project list, but everything else was lost.
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Yes Hatteras usually placed the water hook up near the shore power and TV/phone. Personally I never connect to dockside water and eliminated that years ago. I d rather fill the tank every few days and keep the tank fresh and the water pumps exercised. Reduce the risk of flooding in case of a plumbing failure
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We have quick disconnects at the bottom, behind the door to the shore “umbilical” connection panel on both sides.
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rwaldrop13
With the loss of Pau Hana in Hurricane Ian, I had a list of unfinished/never started projects that I came across this morning. One of them was to "restore" the shore water connection on the side of the deckhouse, instead of the improv connection thru the starboard engine room vent. While we are nowhere near starting to consider returning to boat life, I have started window shopping, just starting to compare boats, looking at a broad mix. Of course, 5 out of 6 on my list on BoatTrader are Hats (big surprise), but as I start to look at the ones with better pictures, I notice that a lot of them seem to have their shore water connection extremely close to the electrical shore tie plugs. Pau Hana's original water connection was actually not that close, and the improv was nowhere near electrical. Am I overthinking this? I had planned to rework the original connection with new fittings/plumbing into the starboard engine room where the pump, accumulator, distribution manifold were all at. Of course the hot water heater was in the port engine room. Pau Hana had some "quirks" being one of the first generation 54' EDMY, and I was never able to get any information from Hatteras about her before the buyout and subsequently losing her to the hurricane. All the manuals were lost between the original owner and the PO's we bought her from. I have some of my notes, and my project list, but everything else was lost.
You really just need to buy another boat.
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As I am reading your note about running water I am sitting on my new boat waiting for a guy to give me a quote on installing anchor and aft washdown stations. Am shocked that a 54 doesn't have them as a stock feature. Would love a copy of your drawings if you can share.
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nmcafee
As I am reading your note about running water I am sitting on my new boat waiting for a guy to give me a quote on installing anchor and aft washdown stations. Am shocked that a 54 doesn't have them as a stock feature. Would love a copy of your drawings if you can share.
Most hatteras have a quick fitting either at the bow or by the PH doors
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SKYCHENEY
You really just need to buy another boat.
You're hilarious but not wrong. If I really want to depress myself, I look at my "invoice" folder under Pau Hana on my laptop where all the parts/tools/supplies were catalogued by cost. As in, lost when the boat was destroyed. We're committed to waiting for a) our dog to cross the rainbow bridge, as he was so unhappy on the boat it's not funny, and b) both my parents are in their late 80s, so we kind of need to stick around, c), wife is still working full-time, and d) all of the above plus the hit we took in deductibles (yes, plural, doubled for named storm + salvage deductible) when insurance paid out. So unless you're writing me a check, let's agree to hopefully have a couple of beers together in the future when we return to the water.
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Pascal
Yes Hatteras usually placed the water hook up near the shore power and TV/phone. Personally I never connect to dockside water and eliminated that years ago. I d rather fill the tank every few days and keep the tank fresh and the water pumps exercised. Reduce the risk of flooding in case of a plumbing failure
I did that as well, but I also planned out my new/old water hookup restoration with cutoff valves inside the engine room where the new plumbing would "enter" the boat. After serving in the USCG, I tend to practice redundancy wherever possible. I had additional concerns because my freshwater fill would start spraying when filling the tank, and flood the aft bilge in the time it took me to yell "turn it off", adding cleanup time to filling the tank. Replacing the tank fitting, and new fill hose was also on the project list, teeing the fill fitting off the shore connection with it's own shutoff valve.
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I had a valve in the dockside supply that would fill the tank. I used an electric valve to let the water in. I would loosen the fill cap so I didn't over pressurize the tank.
Walt Hoover
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whoover
I had a valve in the dockside supply that would fill the tank. I used an electric valve to let the water in. I would loosen the fill cap so I didn't over pressurize the tank.
Walt Hoover
That is an excellent idea, and sounds like what I was going to do - just with a manual valve. But thanks for the suggestion.
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The placement of the "t" in my 42c was not easy to reach so that was my solution.
Walt Hoover
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I have to agree with Sky, you need a boat. I also read your reasons for not proceeding to procure another one. You obviously are of a clear state of mind given that when ever it was you chose to buy one of these money traps, you were not of clear mind. No one of clear mind proceeds to purchase one of these. There is a Jedi mind trick you can use however to justify the monetary end of things: It goes like this: "I waited and waited until I found one for sale well below what it was worth! I finally found it, and it's worth 2 to 3 times what I paid! Just look at all the other similar boats for sale and see what they are asking, I stole this thing!"
If that doesn't help get you back into a new/use money hole, you can just come work on mine whenever you want, for free of course, just like it's your own boat. I won't even charge you for the flights you take to come work on it!
Hope this helps :cool: haha
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Bob Quinn
I have to agree with Sky, you need a boat. I also read your reasons for not proceeding to procure another one. You obviously are of a clear state of mind given that when ever it was you chose to buy one of these money traps, you were not of clear mind. No one of clear mind proceeds to purchase one of these. There is a Jedi mind trick you can use however to justify the monetary end of things: It goes like this: "I waited and waited until I found one for sale well below what it was worth! I finally found it, and it's worth 2 to 3 times what I paid! Just look at all the other similar boats for sale and see what they are asking, I stole this thing!"
If that doesn't help get you back into a new/use money hole, you can just come work on mine whenever you want, for free of course, just like it's your own boat. I won't even charge you for the flights you take to come work on it!
Hope this helps :cool: haha
Took me 3 times to get thru this email... Bob, I'd cheerfully come work/deckhand for you, but I have a clear mind and rule when it comes to flying - I don't. Seriously, though, thanks for the invitation. I definitely need a boat... Or someone who needs a volunteer crewman. Kicker is that the folder is only the stuff I had ordered online, it didn't include vendor invoices, or local supply/equipment purchases. Money hole? Sure. So's a house, if you think about it. The Admiral and I agree with the reasons to delay, but in the meantime I look, I stay in touch with friends in the area, and I am preparing to take the USCG license course for 100-ton.
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Head over to FLL, I’m sure Shay could use your help on her 70MY
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Head over to FLL, I’m sure Shay could use your help on her 70MY
I'd jump at the opportunity but the Admiral would object since I am her transportation to/from her job.
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rwaldrop13
Took me 3 times to get thru this email... Bob, I'd cheerfully come work/deckhand for you, but I have a clear mind and rule when it comes to flying - I don't. Seriously, though, thanks for the invitation. I definitely need a boat... Or someone who needs a volunteer crewman. Kicker is that the folder is only the stuff I had ordered online, it didn't include vendor invoices, or local supply/equipment purchases. Money hole? Sure. So's a house, if you think about it. The Admiral and I agree with the reasons to delay, but in the meantime I look, I stay in touch with friends in the area, and I am preparing to take the USCG license course for 100-ton.
Well my hope was to cheer you up a bit and hopefully relieve some of your grief.
Hope it helped :)
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Bob Quinn
Well my hope was to cheer you up a bit and hopefully relieve some of your grief.
Hope it helped :)
More than helped. Right now being "landlocked" (dad jokes), and in a rental house that honestly doesn't need much more than yard work 1 day a week and cleaning inside 1 day a week leaves me a lot of time. Hence the reason for looking into my 100-tonner. I also used Ian as a sign to go ahead with getting both knees replaced, which the VA did a year apart. So with that out of the way, time to start looking into more meaningful uses of my time. You certainly cheered me up, and reading the posts on here is a help anytime.
